Posted on 07/05/2010 9:16:30 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
Russian and Chinese weapons manufacturers are clashing head on within the international arms market as China’s new fighter jet seems to be a cheaper imitation of the Russian original.
The deal is facing opposition from Russian aircraft manufacturers, such as Mikhail Pogosyan, the head of the MiG and Sukhoi aviation holding, who said that the FC-1 is extremely close, if not the same, as the Russian-made MiG-29. Pogosyan claimed that FC-1 is a direct competitor to Russia's MiG-29 and the deal would incur losses for the Russian manufacturers.
A source quoted by the Kommersant newspaper said there are significant price differences keeping the US$10-million Chinese jets much cheaper than a $35-million Russian MiG-29.
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Hmmmmmmm.......Buy the cheap knock off of a cheap Russian fighter with no relevant combat victories?
Why?
I wouldn’t trust a Chinese TOY airplane, much less a real one!
I agree
“Made-in-China airplanes may undermine sales of Russian high quality jets”
Oh Gee -
Too bad we are on our way to stop making kinds these of nasty killing machines ...
better that our enemies make them!
Note the Chinese aren’t trying to make the jet engines out of their cheap inferior metal, they are trying to buy them.
They aren’t entirely stupid, they are entrepeneurs.
Ping
Buy 500 of them and put them on CAP along the southern border : price 5 billion.
Who needs a front line fighter to perform border patrol duties?
Buy 500 of them and put them on CAP along the southern border : price 5 billion.
Who needs a front line fighter to perform border patrol duties?
btt
Interestingly, Chinese copies of the MiG-19 (Shenyang J-6) proved to be a formidable fighter, mostly because of the powerful cannon armament. The North Vietnamese Air Force had a small number of MiG-19's which they operated with great success, but somehow the NVAF liked the maneuverability of the MiG-17 and the speed of the MiG-21 better (the MiG-17 had one major weakness, namely that if you engage "reheat" (afterburner) mode it was a sitting duck for any heat-seeking missile).
Since the Pakistani AF are facing the prospect of a lot of really modern planes in the Indian AF, I think they may end up buying quite a lot of this fighter:
Chengdu J-10
Otherwise, the Pakistani AF will be a sitting duck for the large number of Sukhoi Su-30MKI and later Sukhoi/HAL FGFA advanced fighters.
The reason why it is cheaper to build a plane in China than in Russia is because kickbacks for weapons contracts can account for 30 percent to 50 percent of the total cost.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/one-way-to-disarm/407745.html
It’s not really a Russian knock-off. It started out as a JV between the PRC and Grumman in the mid-80s.
They Chinese use Russian engines.
That’s right! I remember that now - thank you.
But still, the Chicoms don’t really design anything of their own from whole cloth - they piece together technology stolen from others. That’s just how China does things - at every level.
You can easily see elements of the F-16 in there as well as the MiG.
Thanks.
HAHA!!
as China’s new fighter jet seems to be a cheaper imitation of the Russian original.
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