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Jerome Ersland Trial to take place in September
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Posted on 07/05/2010 8:40:40 PM PDT by Angelus

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To: ansel12
it is good that he was caught, he seems to be worse than the two robbers

WTF?

He was attacked by armed robber in his place of business and had no idea if the accomplice was also armed. Yet, he is worse????

If they had not attacked him, he would have worked that day.....can you say the same for the other two?

Give me some of what you're smoking.
21 posted on 07/06/2010 4:06:06 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Angelus

If he is found guilty of anything (felony), he loses his pension. I believe that he will be found innocent unless the jury finds that five shots is extreme. I have a feeling that they will question that but find him innocent.


22 posted on 07/06/2010 4:50:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ansel12

“Eccentric? A phony war vet and a cold blooded murderer, putting on a fake bandage and describing a running gun battle when the robber with the gun never fired a shot?”

Bull, he wouldn’t have been firing at them if they hadn’t been in his store attempting to rob him. He’d never be charged with murder in Texas. You come into a store to commit armed robbery, you get shot. Period. XYZ horsefeathers.

I could care less about the victim’s state of physical health or propensity to lie. The basic facts are still the basic facts. He was getting robbed by armed assailants. He shot them dead. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Maybe others will think twice before attempting armed robbery, but I doubt they will. They usually already have a rap sheet and a desire to do evil. Good shooting sir. You helped get rid of scum.


23 posted on 07/06/2010 5:02:47 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: Angelus

It will be an interesting contrast to see what happens to this man vs the BART cop in Oakland who executed a boy lying on the ground.


24 posted on 07/06/2010 6:05:16 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Red in Blue PA; flaglady47

You two need to watch the video in post 7 to learn the facts of the case, and you might want to reconsider getting all warm and fuzzy over a fake war veteran.

He faked his drugstore “shootout” and for the media and even wore a fake bandage, claiming that he had been shot, just like he claims to have been injured during his combat exploits as a “platoon leader from Fort Bragg.” when he wasn’t even in the army during the war.


25 posted on 07/06/2010 7:20:07 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

“He faked his drugstore “shootout” and for the media and even wore a fake bandage, claiming that he had been shot, just like he claims to have been injured during his combat exploits as a “platoon leader from Fort Bragg.” when he wasn’t even in the army during the war.”

Once again, you are missing the point, probably intentionally, because you have no answer for it. Regardless of this guy’s quirks, he was being robbed by armed, masked gunmen, in HIS store. He shot them, one is deader than a doornail, and that is a good thing. One less criminal punk in the world. Rather than being just like the Democrats and cheering for the perpetrators while attacking the victims, why don’t you act like a Republican and be happy another couple of armed robbers are either dead or on the run. Geez, wake your brain up.


26 posted on 07/06/2010 7:49:23 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: flaglady47

He didn’t shoot “them”, he shot the one without a gun in the head, which put him out for good, he later fetched another gun and murdered the unconscious robber as he lay on his back on the floor.

Ersland is more psycho than the robbers.

You are so ignorant of the case that you think that he shot both robbers, force yourself to watch the video in post 7, and then compare what really happened to the bizarre stories that he was telling the police and media.

Interesting that you think that phony war vets are merely “quirky”.


27 posted on 07/06/2010 8:04:23 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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At it again with your bogus argument. This is my last reply to you as you are too dense today to understand the argument. I’m glad the two robbers didn’t succeed. I’m glad one is dead, shot by the man whose property was invaded by armed robbers. And I’m glad that the one that is dead was made really dead by the man they were trying to rob. Now do you understand? I’m on the victim of the robbery’s side, not the perpetrators. Go ahead and continue to defend the perpetrator and trash the victim. I won’t. The issue is not the character of the victim, it is the abuse of the perpetrators, one of whom paid a high price for his robbery attempt. If you don’t want to be shot, don’t go onto private property to commit armed robbery. Ok, now enough is enough. I’m tired of arguing with an ignoramous.


28 posted on 07/06/2010 9:25:17 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: ansel12

At it again with your bogus argument. This is my last reply to you as you are too dense today to understand the argument. I’m glad the two robbers didn’t succeed. I’m glad one is dead, shot by the man whose property was invaded by armed robbers. And I’m glad that the one that is dead was made really dead by the man they were trying to rob. Now do you understand? I’m on the victim of the robbery’s side, not the perpetrators. Go ahead and continue to defend the perpetrator and trash the victim. I won’t. The issue is not the character of the victim, it is the abuse of the perpetrators, one of whom paid a high price for his robbery attempt. If you don’t want to be shot, don’t go onto private property to commit armed robbery. Ok, now enough is enough. I’m tired of arguing with an ignoramous.


29 posted on 07/06/2010 9:25:41 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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The issue is executing someone that is unarmed and unconscious. Ersland’s psychotic act was captured on camera and the law had to charge him with murder.


30 posted on 07/06/2010 9:30:03 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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“The issue is executing someone that is unarmed and unconscious. Ersland’s psychotic act was captured on camera and the law had to charge him with murder.”

Good. Glad he’s dead, or he’d be suing the victim, wouldn’t he. Dead is dead, good and dead. And dead in a place he should never have been doing what he was attempting to do, in the first place.


31 posted on 07/06/2010 9:35:44 AM PDT by flaglady47 (To bastardize Samuel Johnson, tyranny is the last refuge of scoundrels)
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To: ansel12

Whether or not he was “fake” is NOT the issue.

He was attacked by 1 armed thug and had every reason to believe the 2nd might be armed.


32 posted on 07/06/2010 9:40:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: flaglady47

Nobody is interested in the dead robber, who cares, but society and the law does have to take an interest in the man that was captured on camera executing him as he lay unconscious.


33 posted on 07/06/2010 9:40:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Red in Blue PA
He was attacked by 1 armed thug and had every reason to believe the 2nd might be armed.

That isn't true, when he murdered the unconscious robber he knew that he wasn't armed, the kid was on his back with his hands palm up and empty, bleeding from his head wound. Watch how unthreatened and uninterested Ersland is in the kid, as he calmly steps over him to go fetch his other pistol.

34 posted on 07/06/2010 9:47:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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Unless you have access to video that the rest of us do not have, all we have is speculation as to the condition of the wounded perp. Ersland shot him, shot him again after chasing the other out the door. THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

That Ersland is a liar about his expolits is immaterial to the case-ask any lawyer. He cannot be charged with lying about his service record (at least in context of this case). While his stories, lies and fabriacations may be used to paint his character poorly, they cannot be used to convict him of murder-they are are not contributing factors to the previous incident.

A Jury will determine whether he is a murderer or not, not his fallicaious statements about other matters. (another reason to SAY NOTHING AT ALL UNTIL YOUR ATTORNEY IS BY YOUR SIDE!!)

The robber who died is guilty of armed robbery-He IS NOT a victim, rather one of two who by their actions are justifiably targets and morally/legally subject to stopped with lethal force (by the victim(s)....).

Best;


35 posted on 07/06/2010 10:05:10 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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Unless you have access to video that the rest of us do not have, all we have is speculation as to the condition of the wounded perp.

The police investigation and the coroner's report tell us about the state of the kid and his body position, he was long stopped when Ersland murdered him.

36 posted on 07/06/2010 10:14:34 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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