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Health overhaul may mean longer ER waits, crowding
Associated Press ^ | July 2, 2010 | CARLA K. JOHNSON

Posted on 07/02/2010 4:46:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW

CHICAGO (AP) - Emergency rooms, the only choice for patients who can't find care elsewhere, may grow even more crowded with longer wait times under the nation's new health law.

That might come as a surprise to those who thought getting 32 million more people covered by health insurance would ease ER crowding. It would seem these patients would be able to get routine health care by visiting a doctor's office, as most of the insured do.

But it's not that simple. Consider:

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The article points out that there's a shortage of doctors and it's the poor that use emergency rooms.

It also says:

Kellermann and other experts point to Massachusetts, the model for federal health overhaul where a 2006 law requires insurance for almost everyone. Reports from the state find ER visits continuing to rise since the law passed - contrary to hopes of its backers who reasoned that expanding coverage would give many people access to doctors offices.

Like they didn't know this?

1 posted on 07/02/2010 4:46:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW
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To: DJ MacWoW

Rest assured they do not understand anything about the free market.
When something isn’t working to their way of thinking they regulate it until it does - when it still doesn’t thats when Hell starts to break loose
Like in Greece or American inner cities...


2 posted on 07/02/2010 4:52:38 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: DJ MacWoW

we alread have longer ER waits...how about no doctors or anything because a bunch of thugs we sent to DC are living the life style of the rich and famous so could care less if the people of this nation lives or dies..pure and simple they are re establishing slavery.


3 posted on 07/02/2010 4:54:51 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: DJ MacWoW

The whole thing is obviously chaos on wheels.


4 posted on 07/02/2010 5:10:02 AM PDT by gusopol3
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Freepers knew this but apparently the AP didn’t.


5 posted on 07/02/2010 5:13:01 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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I loved this:

"Just because we've insured people doesn't mean they now have access," said Dr. Elijah Berg, a Boston area ER doctor.

6 posted on 07/02/2010 5:15:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Who would have guessed that when you offer something for “free,” you increase the demand? You have to wonder what parallel universe AP occupies.


7 posted on 07/02/2010 5:20:23 AM PDT by La Lydia
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LOL!!


8 posted on 07/02/2010 5:22:27 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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MAY? Let me guess...this also is “unexpected” by these dufuses?!!


9 posted on 07/02/2010 5:24:14 AM PDT by mo
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To: DJ MacWoW

Does Obamacare do anything to increase the supply of services? No. Does it do anything to increase the demand? Yes. Conclusion: cost of healthcare goes up.


10 posted on 07/02/2010 5:28:14 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: mo; Jack Wilson

Of course it’s a surprise. Name a lefty that knows actions have consequences. It won’t be anybody in the MSM.


11 posted on 07/02/2010 5:31:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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But Obama promised just the opposite!
How could this be?
12 posted on 07/02/2010 5:36:57 AM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: DJ MacWoW

bookmark


13 posted on 07/02/2010 5:38:09 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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The only reason that so many people use the ER as their own private doctor's office is because for them, it is "free." Perhaps if those people who were on public assistance and who frequently use the ER as their own private doctor's office had the costs of that ER visit taken out of their benefit checks, they might think twice about using the ER for something other than an "E."

If it was up to me, I'd have the citizenship and residency status verified for everyone who uses the ER without a means to pay for it. We could then have ICE agents on hand to arrest any illegal trying to make use of the facility on our dime.

If you really want to be humanitarian, you could do this check after care has been administered to a patient who is truly in need of emergency care.

14 posted on 07/02/2010 5:42:36 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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The article points out that a lot of medicaid people use the ER because doctors limit the number of patients they will accept because of low reimbursement. And that’s true. In 1990, an office visit reimbursement was $9. I don’t know what it is now.


15 posted on 07/02/2010 5:47:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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The article points out that a lot of medicaid people use the ER because doctors limit the number of patients they will accept because of low reimbursement.

Can't blame the doctors for that one. They didn't go into debt hundreds of thousands of dollars just to be paid less than minimum wage. Sadly the only way to remedy this problem is to revert back to the high deductible health insurance model and have patients pay doctors with cash.

That being said though, there really should be a way to deliver reasonably good health care to people of lesser means. Can medical students who are reasonably qualified be paid to provide basic health care to people?

16 posted on 07/02/2010 5:51:58 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Can't blame the doctors for that one

I certainly don't. There was a local surgeon, excellent man, who took more than his share. Unfortunately he took a position at a teaching hospital and left. He treated those that needed care. Just a nice, nice man.

Can medical students who are reasonably qualified be paid to provide basic health care to people?

In a town near me, they had a pilot program where dental students gave low cost care. Anything beyond their skill/knowledge was referred to a regular dentist. It worked but for some reason they quit the program. Probably because it worked.

17 posted on 07/02/2010 6:11:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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Sadly the only way to remedy this problem is to revert back to the high deductible health insurance model and have patients pay doctors with cash.

Missed this.

As a kid in the 50's, we had insurance and we didn't have a lot of money. We did pay doctors cash. Insurance was for hospital stays. And we could afford insurance. This was before Medicare took a large paying block out of the insurance pool. THAT made premiums rise because the old folks were getting tests , mostly unnecessary, for "free". THAT made costs rise and insurance rates too. So the government helped more and Dead Ted created HMO's. It was government "help" that ruined healthcare.

18 posted on 07/02/2010 6:17:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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Paging Captain Obvious (boy, that poor guy just can't get a moment's rest these days, what with the epidemic of liberal idiocy).

Anyone who wants to know how Obastardcare is going to play out need only watch the slow-motion disaster unfolding in Mass. It ain't pretty.


19 posted on 07/02/2010 6:20:43 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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Yep. Wait till the docs have enough of Obamacare under payments and retire....


20 posted on 07/02/2010 6:20:54 AM PDT by b4its2late (I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here.)
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