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Investigators On The Scene Of Where Jacob Wetterling Disappeared More Than 20 years (MN)
kstp ^ | 6-30-`0 | Cory Kampschroer

Posted on 06/30/2010 3:30:07 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has confirmed Stearns County investigators are at a property in the area where Jacob Wetterling was abducted more than 20 years ago.

Neighbors report seeing several unmarked law enforcement vehicles Wednesday morning at the property in St. Joseph. A sheriff's office squad car is parked at the entry to the driveway.

The sheriff's office tells 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS that, "an investigation is occurring today, but details of that investigation are restricted by a Stearns County court order."

The sheriff's office would not release any other details about the investigation and gave no indication when more details would be released.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: collegeville; disappearance; guimond; jacob; jacobwetterling; joshguimond; joshuaguimond; kidnapped; minnesota; missingchildren; mn; pattywetterling; search; stjoseph; wetterling; wtterling
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it must be hell to go through this all the time.
1 posted on 06/30/2010 3:30:13 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Yeah, it seems like every couple of years, somebody phones in a hot tip and everybody gets their hopes up. I really wish that this ends with this investigation. But, I'm thinking that this just might be another cold trail, because of the close proximity of the farm to the Wetterling's. The kids that were with Jacob when he was abducted gave a pretty good description of the man and a sketch was widely circulated. How could this guy hide in plain sight for twenty years???




Squad cars and other vehicles are parked on the Robert and Rita Rassier farm near where Jacob Wetterling was abducted in 1989 in St. Joseph, Minn., Wednesday.
2 posted on 06/30/2010 4:48:17 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Are You Ready?)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I remember when this happened. Two young paper boys in my area also disappeared. It seemed like every day somebody was kidnapping and murdering young boys. Johnny Gosch also disappeared during that time. It destroyed his parents.

Now it is so frequent that it's not so shocking as when Jacob disappeared.

3 posted on 06/30/2010 4:55:40 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Obama, the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: WOBBLY BOB; sodpoodle; bgill; amom; fatnotlazy; LucyT; onyx
Evidentally in 2004, they suddenly discovered that the car witnessed at the scene was owned by a local who is NOT a suspect or a person of interest, and so they RE-started the investigation on the basis of who was ON FOOT in the area who could have abducted Jacob.

Kind of scary (and downright SLOPPY) if THIS is the biggest search in 20 years, they should searched the last place he was seen decades ago.

Supposedly there's a search warrant and they aren't allowed to discuss it, but I found this over at Websleuths:

TEXT-only Printable Version::Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - MN MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 1989

"Authorities involved in the investigation said the search came after two young agents working the case took a fresh look at the file.

"'There were no new tips that sparked the search, no nothing, just young cops looking at the file and they said 'Maybe we should go take a look,' " said an official familiar with developments.

"Asked if the agents were merely working off a hunch, the official said, 'Yeah.'"

4 posted on 07/01/2010 1:32:23 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: MestaMachine; Quix

Won’t it miraculous if they can solve this horrid enigma?


5 posted on 07/01/2010 1:34:43 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Yeah, I’ve been reading up on the investigation since I told you about it earlier. What’s this new thing about the gunman stepping out of the woods and that there wasn’t a vehicle?!? Talk about blowing the investigation for all those years. One article said they were hauling out furniture from a building on the farm. Another said there were trucks taking away dirt. This one says the old man goes to church every day. Could the family be fanatics? Could it be that the now 54 year old son who is being talked about somehow warped by zealot parents? The son has never lived anywhere but at the home except for 2 years at college and he’s never married. He was an elementary band teacher and currently has private music lessons. Just throwing that out there.

http://www.twincities.com/ci_15411710?nclick_check=1


6 posted on 07/01/2010 2:18:11 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
The kids that were with Jacob when he was abducted gave a pretty good description of the man and a sketch was widely circulated.

Uh, the man was masked.

7 posted on 07/01/2010 2:19:35 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: hennie pennie

Hmmm thx.

Don’t recall the case.


8 posted on 07/01/2010 2:23:56 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; hennie pennie

Ok, so first we have a vehicle and then no vehicle and now we have a masked gunman but two sketches of the suspect’s face (linked). What the heck is going on with this investigation??? No wonder it’s still unsolved after two decades.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wetterling_jacob.html


9 posted on 07/01/2010 2:45:38 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: bgill
If I recall correctly, Jacob's brother and a young friend are the only two people who saw the gunman.

IF I remember correctly, the "masked" man was actually wearing pantyhose or a nylon over his face, and that's why the kids had to help a police artist sketch the suspect.... I think.

I don't know WHY they call it a mask, when it obviously was SHEER NYLON stocking material -- so it disguised his face, as opposed to covered it.

I am really shocked that they didn't search this farm with a fine tooth comb right after the crime. They always kept talking about a CAR, but that was wrong, it was a local who came forward in 2004 who was driving the car -- I hope we learn more about him.

I'm just floored that this FAMOUS case, that it turns out that the initial investigation obviously was SLOPPY.

How so very very very sad for the Wetterlings. Also, there were lots of online comments through the years, here and there, implicating priests from some nearby college -- and that's a really nasty accusation, particularly if the LEOs didn't search the scene of the disappearance.

I'm just floored.... ya know????

10 posted on 07/01/2010 3:12:14 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill
The 84 year old who goes to church everyday?

I presume that, like many Catholics of his peer group, he goes to mass frequently, not just on Sundays. Turns out his son, the band teacher, also teaches classes at colleges called St Benedicts and St.Johns, presumably Catholic.

11 posted on 07/01/2010 3:28:15 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Back in the day when I was a good Catholic, we’d go to mass on Sunday and Catechism on Wednesday night. Some of our parents would go to Wednesday night mass to wait on us. I noticed there were several comments here and there from locals who claim the St. Johns Abby knows the truth so perhaps there is something to this. Other comments say the son was their teacher and he’s creepy. Some wonder if other unsolved incidents might be related. Who knows.

There are a handful of cases that somehow grab your heart and this one certainly has for many people. It’s so unbelievable that the investigation seems so mishandled from the start. I doubt there would be much evidence to be found after all these years but it’s good to hear there are new investigators on the case.


12 posted on 07/01/2010 7:14:29 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: WOBBLY BOB; ButThreeLeftsDo; submarinerswife; hennie pennie; Quix

The video is a must see. It explains the car and how so much was probably missed at the time. More importantly, watch until the very end and hear what the suspect says... it’ll give you chills....

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/interview-with-wetterling-neighbor-in-2004-fox-9-report-june-30-2010


13 posted on 07/01/2010 9:22:20 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: bgill

THX.

Not sure I’ll watch.

Plenty sobering stuff re Israel, OThuga, oil well etc.


14 posted on 07/01/2010 9:27:03 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

bump


15 posted on 07/01/2010 9:30:59 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: bgill
I will be interested to learn if AMERICA'S MOST WANTED will do an update this Saturday evening.

It is very difficult to comprehend that such a famous reknown missing child's case was so sloppily handled from the get-go, and yet none of the experts ANYWHERE, ever seemed to notice???

What's wrong with this picture?

Frankly.... and I apologize for appearing conspiratorial, but to me.... it seems that for NOBODY to have noticed this speaks to me of an "inside" job -- and I'm not referring to profs or teachers, but I am very curious about the first team of investigators..... WHAT else is a person to think; HOW else to react to such shoddy work?????

But what is worse yet... this case became known everywhere... why didn't anybody ever notice any problems??

I wonder who the new investigators are, and I wonder where they received their education? HOW is it possible that it took a new generation to hone in on this?

OF course, we could all be totally mistaken, a poster at WS mentioned that this search might not be about JW, but about someone named something like Josh Guimond.(sp)

16 posted on 07/02/2010 8:22:04 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: bgill; All
http://www.wjon.com/LocalNews/tabid/4262/newsid9787/48906/Default.aspx

The search warrants will NOT be made public, as if they were, it could interfere in the investigation in the disappearance of Jacob Wetterling.

It will be several weeks before the forensic analysis of items retrieved from the farm is complete; the specific items were not described.

Elsewise, nothing else seems to have been offerred by the LEOs.

17 posted on 07/02/2010 9:21:39 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Thanks. I’ve been reading up on the case since yesterday. The store is right at 1 mile from their house but it’s no longer a store. Google street view has the sign blurred and I haven’t looked to see what it is today.

No one seems to know where the sketches of the man originated but it wasn’t from the boys. From what I gather, they may have come from witnesses at the convenience store or from a prior abduction in the area 9 months before which might be linked somehow.

From the video link I posted above, it’s from back in 2004. If the neighbor’s voice is a true recording and not computer mangled, he has a deep voice. The boys reported the abductor had a deep voice. And who doesn’t bother to find out why there’s police on their property and helicopters flying over and half the county driving by? Very strange dude.

This link has a bit more info from what happened that night:

http://www.minnesotamonthly.com/media/Minnesota-Monthly/October-2009/Without-a-Trace/index.php?cparticle=1&siarticle=0#artanc

Patty says they decided AT THE LAST MINUTE to go to a friend’s party. Ok, so that means a possible stalker wouldn’t have known this plan although he might have jumped on the possibility seeing the parents leave the children home alone and then the boys later rode their bikes on the road alone if he was lurking around the house.

But here’s what I don’t understand. Oct. 22, 1989 was a Sunday. There are no holidays for Monday, the 23rd, so why was the family out and about on a school night??? Parents going out for a party on a Sunday night (who schedules Sunday night parties?) when they have kids that need to be in bed and they have school and work the next day? The oldest girl is at a sleepover??? Jacob’s friend is allowed to go to their house so his parents weren’t worried about school the next day either. Then they’re allowed to go rent a movie at 9 pm so the Wetterlings knew the kids would be up late watching the movie until after 11 pm. Yes, the kids did attend school because the dad made mention of that. So, what am I missing here?

Before Mr. and Mrs. Wetterling left, Patty order pizza for the kids. The drive to the party was about a half hour so the pizza delivery guy/gal would have been delivering the pizza about the time the parents called back home with the friends’ phone number. I wonder if the pizza had been delivered or not and by whom and did the police ever interview the delivery person and his/her co-workers?

About the car. That was supposedly cleared up by a guy who has recently come forward to say he had heard about the incident on his scanner. It was nearby, so he drove over to the scene. He was in his early twenties at the time. He said the police never questioned him. He said he had seen the bikes by the road. However, it seems that Aaron (Jacob’s friend) was riding a scooter so that is different from most reports. Does anyone know what kind of scooter?

I have two theories: One, someone was stalking (for whatever reason) around the home and knew the kids were alone and the boys being out on the road was a prime opportunity. Or two, the neighbor did it and waited for them to come back by his place on their way home. Either way, I don’t believe it was an outsider to the community.


18 posted on 07/02/2010 10:17:10 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: hennie pennie

Ok, so this says Monday was a school holiday. Columbus Day would have been like the week before so what’s this holiday?

http://www.startribune.com/local/64675297.html?page=2&c=y


19 posted on 07/02/2010 10:42:42 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: bgill

Is it possible that there were teacher meetings that day? And if so, then where was that band teacher on Monday?


20 posted on 07/02/2010 10:46:44 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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