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Exclusive: Are Rumors of Illegal Alien Amnesty True?
Family Security Matters ^ | June 28, 2010 | The Editor

Posted on 06/29/2010 5:14:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Skared2deth

I want him to be toast. Therefore I hope he tries it.It would polarize our nation and help oust these fascist prigs in November.


21 posted on 06/29/2010 5:51:32 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: OldDeckHand

Executive Order 13083 was defunded by an amendment to the Omnibus Appropriations Bill of 1998. It was later revoked and replaced with another order. The courts never took action.


22 posted on 06/29/2010 5:56:14 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: OldDeckHand

While you are correct in the legal sense, the practical way to stop any Executive Order is through defunding.


23 posted on 06/29/2010 5:58:03 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale; 2ndDivisionVet; Beckwith
If Obama tries this by an Executive Order, the EO could be rejected by the Senate and overridden. Do any of you remember Executive Order 13083 when Bill Clinton tried to remove the Tenth Amendment? The Senate overturned it and tonguelashed the White House. Seems like the vote was 99-0, or something similar. Obama might have been elected by a slight majority, but that majority is evaporated. He should be impeached if he tries to circumvent the congress. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

There are already laws on the books related to illegal immigrants and defining them, along with the deportation process.So what do I do If I am a law enforcement officer. Do I follow an executive order or a law duly passed by conogress?

The States,like Arizoa, will follow the law, not the executive order.The feds will follow the executive order.This is shaping up to be a very contentious states rights issue, relatinng to the overall presidential constitutional duty to secure our borders.

If Obama does this, I do believe it is grounds for impeachment, States/Fed law suits will happen, and outright civil disobedience will occur.People will start securing the border on their own, there will be private citizen illegal alien hunting going on throughout the South, as well as associated citizen group/posse/rancher shootouts with Mexican Drug runners.

This is a very dicey test float that Obama has put out there.He is a sucker if he does it, but I love the sound of Barry Soetoro vacuum.He has been suckered by many foreign leaders, so why not by us? He has earned it IMHO.

24 posted on 06/29/2010 6:02:43 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...the estimated 10.8 million illegal immigrants...

What a crock. This is one time the commie 'RATS aren't inflating the numbers. Instead, they have lowered them down to a number they believe Americans may be willing to tolerate and accept. Don't believe the lying commies. IT'S 30 MILLION.

25 posted on 06/29/2010 6:08:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! Had enough "history" yet?)
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To: Candor7

Exactly. This creates civil unrest regardless of the eventual outcome. Maybe that is what they want, to reduce us to a third world country.


26 posted on 06/29/2010 6:24:06 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: plinyelder

See my profile page.


27 posted on 06/29/2010 6:29:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: Candor7
Tenth Amendment text (Very Clear):

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


28 posted on 06/29/2010 6:30:43 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale

For some reason, the Democrats like to overlook this Amendment.


29 posted on 06/29/2010 6:33:56 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale
I think you are exactly correct. Every way Obama has handled a "crisis, " whetehr created for his ow purpose, or an actual crisis, has been focused oin creating more sicial disorde. Its an old natuionalsocialist ( fascist ) policy. At some poing it creates enough violence or potential for violence that martial law is declared.

Napolitano is sitting inn her office rubbing her hands together, the security reports are already written in rough draft,red nck conservatives and ex military are already targeted as villains, and she will send the reports to Barry Soetoro for his declaration of "martial law." Its all designed to come to a head in August of 2012.

So what are the targets?Arizona, the Gulf Coast ( oil spill causes civil unrest), and any other Red State they can work it on so that free speech and right of assembly can be suspended just before the election, likely including shutting down the internet for 4 months.

Possibly the election itself will be suspended or postponed.The left knows now they cannot win it. Their desperation will lead to further full blown fascism.

Lets hope that in November we send enough men and women with courage to the capitol.They are going to need it.MAybe we can even impeach Holder and Obama. Its past due.

30 posted on 06/29/2010 6:39:44 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did and Done. [8-o


31 posted on 06/29/2010 6:47:02 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: TommyDale
I agree, but this is not the "living constitution." In Kagan's living constitution, the States are prohibited absolutely from any area in which the feds have even constructive jurisdiction. The spotted owl is protected, and the state of Oregon suddenly has nothing to say about hunting law anymore, for example, its all federally regulated.

We have some very sick leftists about to take charge of our nation, and are we destined to become a nation ruled by political correctness according to the whimsy of the Soetoro King's foot, rather than a nation governed by laws?

That is how fascism evolves according to history, and we are now well into it. The question simply is , how long will it take America to wake up?

Without the law and the constitution, it will be every man for himself, according to whatever political correctness he decides is his.

The left doesn't give a fiddlers fack for the constitution, unless there is some citizen muscle behind it. And where is that? I have my fingers crossed.How much longer will we take it?

32 posted on 06/29/2010 6:52:04 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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He's gotten away with everything so far, why should he be worried? Things that, by themselves, would've seen almost every other previous president impeached or worse are like water off a duck's back to this man, as he attends parties, plays golf and vacations every other day.

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33 posted on 06/29/2010 6:58:48 PM PDT by LucyT ("...redistribution of wealth.")
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To: LucyT

This is why the founders were so adamant about a ‘free-press’ and the purpose of the press was to be the watchdog for the people. When we lost the press as a watchdog for the people and it has become a lapdog for the administration, we would be doomed. If not for the internet. And now they are trying to take that away from us with the kill switch.


34 posted on 06/29/2010 7:15:05 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: plinyelder

I second a motion to that meeting..lock and load


35 posted on 06/29/2010 7:20:36 PM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: LucyT

Exclusive: Are Rumors of Illegal Alien Amnesty True?
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I don’t doubt it one bit...


36 posted on 06/29/2010 7:22:08 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; martin_fierro; ...

important ping - nice summary


37 posted on 06/29/2010 7:30:07 PM PDT by bitt ( "Obama - HeÂ’s last yearÂ’s boy band." (steyn))
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To: bitt; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks bitt.


38 posted on 06/29/2010 7:43:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Candor7

I am prepared for the absolute worst scenario.


39 posted on 06/29/2010 7:46:50 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


40 posted on 06/29/2010 7:51:23 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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