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BP oil spill planet killer (Was BP looking for abiotic oil reserves?)
American Chronicle ^ | June 15, 2010 | Michael Webster, Investigative Reporter

Posted on 06/28/2010 5:07:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Millions of listeners heard on the popular Coast to Coast Am radio show recently that the BP oil spill is a planet killer. Talk show host Ian Punnett welcomed two guests, Jim Bell during the second hour and Minister Lindsey Williams in the 3rd hour, for a discussion on the Gulf oil crisis as well as alternative energy. In the second hour, Minister Lindsey Williams, who once served as a chaplain for the oil companies operating in Alaska, shared what he claimed to be the "real story" behind the Gulf oil crisis. He explained that, in the 1970's, Russia drilled over 40,000 feet into the ground and discovered abiotic oil, i.e. oil which replenishes itself via an as-yet-unknown natural chemical process. The off-shore drilling done by BP in the Gulf of Mexico, Williams said, was their attempt to create a similar super-deep well and access this same abiotic oil. However, according to his sources, BP insiders and U.S. Government officials the pressure from this pocket of abiotic oil in the Gulf was so great that it burst all the safety valves on the floating platform.

Williams went on to allege that oil industry insiders believe that the only method to stop the flow of oil in the Gulf is via a nuclear device and even that has potential for catastrophic results. Bell, who rejoined the conversation in the fourth hour, agreed with Williams about the potential danger of using a nuke to thwart the spill because it could "pop the bubble" and cause all of the underground oil to emerge simultaneously. On the potential long term effects of the crisis if the flow of oil is not stopped, Bell speculated that it could reach Europe within three years through the Gulf Stream.

Additionally, Williams observed that the overwhelming amount of dangerous gasses, which are also being released from the disaster, could be swept along the East Coast should a hurricane arrive in the Gulf. Williams stated that those same dangerous pollutants are in the air in alarming amounts and getting more dangerous everyday. He further indicated that the oil pressure coming up the oil deep water pipe was running between 20,000 and 70,000 PSI. Last night on the Coast to coast Am show Science Advisor Richard C. Hoagland commented on the oil spill in the Gulf. He warned listeners that an even worse catastrophe could be looming if a giant gas bubble that has formed at the site of the leak on the ocean floor should blow. Hoagland said the pressure in the pipe is 100,000 or more lbs of pressure per squire inch or PSI. Both agreed that BP nor anyone else knows how to shop this amount of pressure coming from the largest and deepest underwater oil well on earth.

Williams said "that the dangers from this run away well is a planet killer and we may not be able to stop it." Mankind could be doomed.

Bell, who calls himself an "ecological designer," blamed the oil spill on a corporate culture which focuses on making a profit by way of "taking short cuts" that, ultimately, result in situations such as the one in the Gulf of Mexico. He put forward the notion that the ideal scenario to break free of corporate controlled energy is to aggressively pursue efficient solutions which would make the transition away from oil easier and faster. Using solar power as an example, he theorized that, with good leadership, it would take about 40 years for such a transition to take place.

According to writer Jose Lugo in the movie Armageddon, there was a scene where Steve Buscemi who played the part of a reluctant-hero-astronaut and while sitting and waiting for liftoff, he uttered a profound philosophical statement;

"Hey Harry, you know we're sitting on 4 million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder, makes you feel good doesn't it"?

In the movie, this statement was made by an oil drilling roughneck to other roughnecks; but it says so much about the oil business and today's corporate culture. It's the reckless, do it quick, cheap and dirty routine.

Lugo went on to say that the Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster is a case in point. The disaster started with an explosion that nobody was ready for. Then the oil companies (BP and Transatlantic) discovered that they had absolutely "NO PLANS" to handle the unfolding disaster, they had to think things up as they went along. They had only one shut off station in one location, that malfunctioned! Reckless, quick, cheap and dirty!

Williams said that the amount of oil gushing from the well is much greater than BP and the amount the Government is reporting as only one million gallons a day. Both guests surmised that the more accurate amount gushing from the well is in the millions of barrels. Why didn't they have shut off valves along the pipe line? They did but all the system was overwhelmed by the great pressure of the blow out.

But the most anguishing question remains, "Why didn't they have a back-up plan?" Things happen in the ocean--hurricanes, sinking ships, equipment breakdowns, Murphy's Law etc.. Why didn't they have plans for these possible disasters? Because no commercial company has ever drilled that deep before this is a super-deep well with a mile of sea water on top of it. The pressures alone at those depths are enormous and may have contributed to the failures.

During the program it come out that there are multiple holes in the pipe and that more oil is gushing from fissures as far away from the well head as 20 miles.

Hoagland said that at the sea bed at the well for miles around it is a bubble and it is growing, believed to be pressure from a huge natural gas build up that could blow at any time and kill many there and in the general area working to stop the rush of the largest out of control oil leak that man has ever known.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abioticoil; bp; coasttocoastam; conspiracy; energy; environment; obama; oil; oilrigrumors; oilspill; rigrumors; russia; talkradio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

One interesting piece of information came from the TV interview of a guy who survived jumping off the burning rig into the ocean. If I understand his statements correctly, he said that around the central pipe in the blowout preventer, there was sort of a 15 foot long rubber collar (a giant O ring?). Apparently a technician pulled up the pipe a ways and damaged the inside of this collar. The survivor said there had been pieces of it coming to the surface and some were concerned that it was much more than the usual internal wear would produce. [Will some oil person tell me if my understanding is correct.]

So my question is: Did Transocean inform BP of this issue, and if they did, did BP ignore the potential of this to cause problems? Seems an important part of the “who to blame and sue” issue. Of course, the question also is one of weather anyone survived who was in a position to answer this question.


21 posted on 06/28/2010 5:41:04 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know enough not to take advise from someone who sees profound philosophical statements emerging out of Armageddon.
22 posted on 06/28/2010 5:45:56 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Star Traveler
be able to present anything substantial -- other than to say "BS"...

It was a three hour show. BS is shorter than a point by point rebuttal of a show transcript.
23 posted on 06/28/2010 5:50:10 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: eclecticEel
profound philosophical statements emerging out of Armageddon.

Maybe so, but that movie had some great one-liners.

24 posted on 06/28/2010 5:51:13 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: PGR88

It has to be said. Thanks. It isn’t dead dinosaurs, folks.


25 posted on 06/28/2010 5:55:34 PM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't listen to C2C. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories or end-of-the world zombie apocalypse scary stories.

However, I'll repeat what I said back in May: This event is going to be a "localized" ELE. So catastrophic that it's going to show up in the geologic record.

Frankly, whatever it takes to kill off the global caliphate before it can be born is fine with me, even if it means dying myself.

There are some things worse than death. And living under the heel of tyrants while you pray for death is one of them.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

26 posted on 06/28/2010 5:59:41 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I listen to Coast to Coast every evening. Most of it is BS. This story is BS. Anyone older than 12 can tell when guests on CTC are lying.


27 posted on 06/28/2010 6:00:24 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: LomanBill

Coast to coast is like an improv troupe playing a game where they pull keywords out of a hat and try to sell conspiracy theories based on them.

Last time I listened to it, they were going on and on about Obama’s Jones Act and its impact on the BP oil spill clean up. The Jones Act dates back to 1920.

It’s entertaining and I know that a lot of teleplay and screenplay writers like it for inspiration. But it’s certainly not close to the truth.


28 posted on 06/28/2010 6:01:27 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: LomanBill

ping


29 posted on 06/28/2010 6:03:48 PM PDT by trailboss800
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To: gleeaikin

That o-ring thing to which you refer is an “annulas” or annular seal, an on-off device. It’s there as a pressure seal.

The straight poop (as straight as you’ll get, anyway)is that the drill pipe string was accidentally dropped 15 ft while the annulas was engaged, shearing off chunks of rubber and ruining the seal. It’s not there to act as a brake against 150,000lbs of drill string weight, as some have reported.

Once it was toast, things went badly soon thereafter.


30 posted on 06/28/2010 6:06:22 PM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For starters you`re talking about the Sasquatch Show, home of the tin foil hatters. I work midnights occasionally and will listen to them a little from time to time, they`re like an sci-fi/conspiracy improvisational troupe. A Saturday Night Live of talk radio. Interesting, in a weird and Twilight Zone sort of a way, BUT, to be taken with a near lethal amount of salt!
31 posted on 06/28/2010 6:14:53 PM PDT by nomad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For starters you`re talking about the Sasquatch Show, home of the tin foil hatters. I work midnights occasionally and will listen to them a little from time to time, they`re like an sci-fi/conspiracy improvisational troupe. A Saturday Night Live of talk radio. Interesting, in a weird and Twilight Zone sort of a way, BUT, to be taken with a near lethal amount of salt!
32 posted on 06/28/2010 6:14:59 PM PDT by nomad
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To: trailboss800

Pong?


33 posted on 06/28/2010 6:26:13 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've been on offshore platforms in the Gulf. Some owned and operated by BP, actually.

Some are in OVER one mile of water - deeper than the one mile depth of this well.

Some of the wells feeding into these platforms are drilled into over 10,000 feet of earth, NOT including the mile + of water they are in.

This leaking well is not really any different geologically than any other well in the Gulf..... but I'm not a drilling expert.

34 posted on 06/28/2010 6:31:29 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: gleeaikin

There are some on the Oildrum.com forum who are refuting the “worst case scenario” that was posted there earlier, so it seems that a lot of speculation is mixed in with expert opinion as to where this thing is apt to go.

The latest on the situation as it relates to the tropical storm / hurricane is at:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6667


35 posted on 06/28/2010 6:36:46 PM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: Star Traveler; 2ndDivisionVet; coon2000

“who is to say that it’s any more valid than those ‘others’ who tells us that Obama is doing a fine job”

The relativistic view is always trumped by something known as common sense.

Those without common sense can educate themselves with statements such as those found in post #13.

Good thing you’re a conservative—it gives you much quicker access to common sense than if you were a leftist. This should answer your question.


36 posted on 06/28/2010 6:48:35 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know how much of the article is BS but as someone who has designed and fabricated pressure gages, valves and fitting for the the oil and gas industry, the statement of 100,000 psi is plausible. I often wondered where they’d get that much pressure naturally, since they routinely purchased gages, fittings and valves rated to 180,000 psi. Above 180,000 psi is difficult because we could never test them, I don’t know of any fluids that don’t turn to solids above 180,000 psi. What I do know is that the alloys for these high pressure fittings are really expensive; sometimes costing over a hundred dollars a pound just for the metal; and the fittings and valve are big enough to need a good hoist to even lift them.
As for polluting Europe and the entire earth, that’s pure BS, normal earth seismic activity releases these quantities routinely.


37 posted on 06/28/2010 7:05:35 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Comrade O has to go; FIRE THE SHIFTLESS KENYAN NOW !!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bell, who calls himself an "ecological designer," blamed the oil spill on a corporate culture which focuses on making a profit by way of "taking short cuts" that, ultimately, result in situations such as the one in the Gulf of Mexico.

What about the previous huge Gulf spill down in Mexico. That was done by PEMEX. IE - A government entity.

38 posted on 06/28/2010 7:15:26 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I quit reading when he said the only way to stop it is a nuke.

He’s a nut.


39 posted on 06/28/2010 8:41:53 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

Bill Clinton: We May Have to Blow Up Oil Well
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2543359/posts


40 posted on 06/28/2010 8:54:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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