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Democrats endorse marijuana legalization, oppose liquor privatization (Washington)
The News Tribune ^ | June 26, 2010 | Jordan Schrader

Posted on 06/26/2010 3:48:09 PM PDT by epithermal

Delegates at the state Democratic convention voted to endorse Initiative 1068, which would legalize the sale and use of marijuana in Washington.

The vote was 314-185, a defeat for delegates who said the initiative is too broad and would make it more difficult for candidates to run in more conservative areas.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.thenewstribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: democrats; initiative1068; libertarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; pot; stuckinthe60s; washington
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This won't help them in eastern Washington
1 posted on 06/26/2010 3:48:13 PM PDT by epithermal
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To: epithermal

This was their state convention folks. The Republicans had over 1600 delegates at their state convention. By the delegate count of this vote, there were only 499 delegates.


2 posted on 06/26/2010 4:21:19 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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3 posted on 06/26/2010 4:50:32 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: sionnsar

“Which would legalize the sale and use of marijuana in Washington.”

I wonder if you’ll be able to buy it at the State Liquor Store, or if they’ll set up another State Marijuana Store?


4 posted on 06/26/2010 4:59:10 PM PDT by 21twelve ( UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES MY ARSE: "..now begin the work of remaking America."-Obama, 1/20/09)
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To: sionnsar

But liberals have BANNED smoking everywhere in WA. Where will MJ users light up?


5 posted on 06/26/2010 5:01:20 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: epithermal

This is all about big government.

Here’s why legalizing marijuana will NOT be the smooth, mellow experience some visualize.

Legalize it and regulation follows.

Why? Because of money.

Cannabis is legalized. So, the government places taxes and fees on the finished product.

Then the regulations appear. RJR and Phillip Morris get on board and start producing the product.

Lobbyists show up in Washinton, D.C., with lots of money in their pockets to influence politicians.

Home grown cannabis is outlawed.

What! You didn’t really think you would be allowed to grow your own, now did you? Do you see folks growing their own tobacco? How many people do you know distil whiskey legally? It is all restricted by the government.

The new law requires an expansion of enforcement: The Bureau of Alcohol, Cannabis, Tobacco and Firearms - BACTF - becomes a reality.

A Black Market results and flourishes since the Latino drug cartels already exist. The illegal drug trade expands rather than contracts and the violence escalates.

All those fantasies about mellow use of weed, kicking back and growing your own, disappears like a purple haze as the late-night raids by BACTF breaks-down doors and arrests many, many people.

This will not turn out the way any stoners may have dreamed.

The Feds will regulate the hell out of cannabis and it will make you really angrier than you already are right now. Look at what happened to tobacco and alchohol: ten dollars a pack cigarettes and $50 per gallon whiskey.

The Democrats are all about power and control. And they have no druthers when enticing marijuana users into their traps.


6 posted on 06/26/2010 5:06:00 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: boop
There's an insanity that goes along with being a liberal Democrat. Ban cigarettes because they're dangerous, then legalize marijuana, which is two to three times more harmful to the lungs than regular cigarettes. Ban people having one mercury thermometer in the house, then mandate mercury light bulbs.

Last year, General Petraeus was "General Betray Us." Today, he's the most brilliant man in the military because Barack hired him.

It's not just that they can do a 180 so quickly, they can do it with so much enthusiasm and not even see the contradiction in their positions.

7 posted on 06/26/2010 5:10:13 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: epithermal

Legalizing Marijuana will save the state of WA a boat load of money! Less prisoners to feed & house & treat medically, less cops to enforce the ban, less police stations, less judges to rule on MJ cases, less bailiffs, less court clerks, less court buildings, and more tax revenue from MJ sales! As a WA taxpayer, that will be a welcome change. Instead of the criminals making profit from selling the weed, regular business people will make the profit and pay taxes on it!


8 posted on 06/26/2010 5:21:52 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: SatinDoll

You make a good point, one cartel will simply be traded for another. There is still a black market for cigarettes, after all.


9 posted on 06/26/2010 5:22:21 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: epithermal

So how long before my security clearance is not affected by becoming impaired with this soon to be new legal mind alteration? So they need to establish how much makes you too impaired to hold a security clearance. And each security clearance level should have a trigger or maximum “high” you can attain. Or maybe certain events, to too many “certain” events affect the clearance. So I can just wait and see where this all goes - having seen that Clinton’s administration team members could not have held a security clearance makes me truely wonder????


10 posted on 06/26/2010 6:05:24 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

See my post #6. You’ve been dreaming, or are stoned.


11 posted on 06/26/2010 6:14:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

“...regular business people will make the profit and pay taxes on it!”

See my post #4.


12 posted on 06/26/2010 6:17:56 PM PDT by 21twelve ( UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES MY ARSE: "..now begin the work of remaking America."-Obama, 1/20/09)
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To: SatinDoll

It’s legal to grow your own tobacco and make beer and wine. I doubt they would make growing your own cannabis illegal, besides, they wouldn’t be able to enforce it very well.


13 posted on 06/26/2010 6:22:17 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: SatinDoll

“How many people do you know distil whiskey legally?”

At the current retail price I don’t anyone who would bother.


14 posted on 06/26/2010 6:23:20 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: Richard Kimball

I suppose people could always cook with it, and it wouldn’t be harmful would it?


15 posted on 06/26/2010 6:23:23 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: SatinDoll

“How many people do you know distil whiskey legally?”

At the current retail price I don’t know anyone who would bother.


16 posted on 06/26/2010 6:23:48 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: Jumper

Security clearances aren’t affected by alcohol use unless someone shows up drunk all the time. They don’t even check for it in urinalysis.


17 posted on 06/26/2010 6:25:26 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: epithermal
"Democrats endorse marijuana legalization, oppose liquor privatization (Washington)"

"The vote was 314-185, a defeat for delegates who said the initiative is too broad and would make it more difficult for candidates to run in more conservative areas."

Doing my dime store imitation of Glenn Beck, please learn this: drug prohibition, like alcohol prohibition was a project of the Progressives. So, 4 generations later, why are 'conservatives' trying to make a failed and unreformable progressive project work? Drug prohibition can't work, no matter what you do. So why don't we go back to the American libertarian/conservative traditions of freedom, personal responsibility and individual accountability?

The history of drug laws in America are one of those untold, hidden, obscured stories. The first drug law in America was 1877 and banned smoking opium. The threat of smoking opium? Why dat? Samuel Gompers, bigtime labor union organizer campaigned around the country inciting race hatred against the Chinese, mostly workers on the inter-continental railroads. What was the Chinese worker threat? Well, they worked harder and longer than the white workers, which according to Gompers was a result of the opium, which was almost exclusively smoked by the Chinese.

The picture was spread of opium dens, where the Chinese lured White women for lewd purposes. That was the progressive vision at the dawn of progressivism. The idea that the Federal Government could enact drug laws against the American People was seen as ludicrous.

Let's reclaim the Constitution and American Freedom. End the failed totalitarian experiment in Drug Prohibition.

18 posted on 06/26/2010 7:15:04 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: SatinDoll

Just wait until Obama-Care covers the purchase of pot. You know it will have to be covered, after its been declared legal, and after its been recognized as a treatment drug.

They’ll pass out glaucoma cards with their voting cards at the DMV.

That’ll keep everyone on welfare.

Our tax dollars not only supporting the welfare state, the abortion state, and soon to be the dopers.

Is there no island in this sea of insanity?


19 posted on 06/26/2010 7:34:50 PM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Yes, the so called War on Drugs is a progeny of the Progressives, along with the War on Poverty, national health care, and fedgov control of the environment. The 16th and 17th Amendments were ratified in 1913, and alcohol prohibition followed a few years later.

At least the Progressives, unlike modern era Drug Warriors, had enough respect for the Constitution to enact Prohibition via the amendment process.

20 posted on 06/26/2010 7:42:45 PM PDT by Ken H
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