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Pennsylvania To Benefit Economically If U.S. Invests In Public Transit
Logistics Online ^ | June 25, 2010

Posted on 06/25/2010 3:33:50 AM PDT by Willie Green

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Actual Title: "New Study Shows Pennsylvania, A Leader In Rail Manufacturing, Is Poised To Benefit Economically If Next U.S. Transportation Bill Invests In Public Transit"

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1 posted on 06/25/2010 3:33:52 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

What will the government do — force people at gunpoint to ride trains?

What a friggin’ waste of the taxpayer’s money!


2 posted on 06/25/2010 3:38:16 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Willie Green

“Invest” == take taxpayer dollars at the barrel of a gun to subsidize train fanatics’ big toys.


3 posted on 06/25/2010 3:43:55 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Willie Green; SatinDoll
This is what Federally subsidized transit spending does for Pennsylvania. Those who forget the past, and all:

Trolley Extension a 'Tragic Mistake'

4 posted on 06/25/2010 3:46:00 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Half a billion and counting, not including operating costs, repairs, maintenance( deaths of tens of million dollar bleeding cuts) to get to a tax subsidized ball park a few times a year and a junk, poor payoff rinky dink casino.

Yeah, that’s some productive ‘investments’ that pay off with union jobs, more taxes, more repairs....


5 posted on 06/25/2010 3:53:53 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Wolfie

The tragic thing about that tunnel is that it will only be used when the Steelers and Pirates are in town...maybe. That money could have been used to fix the sorry roads and bridges around Pittsburgh or to improve already existing mass transit (the kind people ride EVERY DAY).


6 posted on 06/25/2010 3:54:25 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Willie Green
The Duke University rail study found that manufacturers with facilities in Pennsylvania are Bombardier Transportation (Pittsburgh); Brookville Equipment (Brookville); Hyundai Rotem (Philadelphia); Kasgro Rail (New Castle); GE Transportation (Erie and Grove City); Amsted Industries (Camp Hill); Ansaldo STS USA (Pittsburgh); Bentech (Philadelphia); CAM Innovation Inc (Hanover); Converteam Inc (Pittsburgh); Mitsubishi Electric (Pittsburgh); North American Specialty Glass (Trumbauersville); ORX Railway (Tipton); Penn Machine Company (Blairsville); PHW (East Pittsburgh); Standard Steel (Pittsburgh and Burnham); USSC Group (Exton); UTC Rail Inc (Morton); Westcode Inc (Wilmerding and Greensburg); WEXCO Industries (Philadelphia); Young Windows (Conshohocken); and ZF Sachs Automotive of America (Pittsburgh). They produce a variety of equipment, including driving control systems, door systems, engines and windows.

That's it? Duke couldn't find any more than that? And quite a few of those are foreign companies: Bombardier, Hyundai, Ansaldo, Converteam, Mitsubishi, Westcode, and ZF Sachs. And I believe that most of the American companies listed are small ones.

7 posted on 06/25/2010 4:01:07 AM PDT by snowsislander (In this election year, please ask your candidates if they support repeal of the 1968 GCA.)
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To: Willie Green
It would be more productive if the government just paid them to dig holes and fill them in. At least we wouldn't have to subsidize the holes to operate later with more government workers and pensions!
8 posted on 06/25/2010 4:05:15 AM PDT by craigster_nc
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To: Willie Green

“Although the U.S. rail manufacturing industry is small — the report’s authors estimate its employment at between 10,000 and 14,000 employees — industry analysts expect it to grow due to pent-up demand for intercity and urban rail service.”

If unions are involved, expect that business to go to China.


9 posted on 06/25/2010 4:08:02 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: SatinDoll
What will the government do — force people at gunpoint to ride trains?

No, here in the United States, people freely choose to use mass transit if it's an available alternative.

What a friggin’ waste of the taxpayer’s money!

American commuters make over 27 million trips on mass transit systems DAILY.
They, and their employers, are all taxpayers who benefit from this form of transportation.
It is economically irresponsible to flippantly dismiss transit funding as "a waste".

10 posted on 06/25/2010 4:09:09 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: SatinDoll

Have you ever ridden on Amtrak?

I have.

50 empty seats for every person on board.


11 posted on 06/25/2010 4:18:09 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: snowsislander
That's it? Duke couldn't find any more than that?

This article only focuses on companies located in Pennsylvania.
For companies located elsewhere, you'll have to look-up the full report from Duke University.

12 posted on 06/25/2010 4:18:12 AM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka. ..")
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To: Willie Green
Well something needs to be done in the greater Baltimore-Washington SMSA. The road infrastructure is tapped out.You just cannot expand the roadways any further.

Self propelled street cars might be the way to go if old railbeds can be reclaimed.

13 posted on 06/25/2010 4:19:35 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Willie Green

I live in southwest Washington State. We have a transit bus, paid for by federal tax dollars, that cruises around town empty the majority of time.

AMTRAC runs daily between Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington. It, too, is mostly empty. The automobiles on Interstate 5, running nearly parallel with AMTRAC, move faster. Three people in an automobile can travel more cheaply than those same three people could riding AMTRAC.

Like I said, albeit tongue in cheek, will the government force people at gunpoint to ride trains?


14 posted on 06/25/2010 4:19:50 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Willie Green

It’s provable waste. It can not fund its construction. It requires funds collected at the point of a government gun.

Mass transit can not even generate the cash flow for day to day operation, let alone paying off bonds, or maintaining the infrastructure.

But, it isn’t a ‘waste’.

Let’s recap. It can not fund,run, or maintain itself. So, it must be then what, productive? Wealth producing? Cost effective?


15 posted on 06/25/2010 4:22:24 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Willie Green

Do you support this?

LLS


16 posted on 06/25/2010 4:22:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Mikey_1962

AMTRAC (or is it Amtrak - you’re most likely correct!) is exactly what I’m talking about.


17 posted on 06/25/2010 4:23:16 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Willie Green
Detroit to Chicago this weekend round trip via Amtrak: $142

Detroit to Chicago this weekend round trip via Southwest Airlines: $137

Why would I choose Amtrak?

18 posted on 06/25/2010 4:24:15 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Let the people leave. Or stay. It’s not a problem.

“No one goes there anymore, it’s too crowded”

Crowds=success.


19 posted on 06/25/2010 4:24:21 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Willie Green
American commuters make over 27 million trips on mass transit systems DAILY.

Being one of them I can attest to the fact that government is not the answer. My bus is private and gets almost no government subsidies. The 10% or so of operating costs that the state gives is not nearly enough to make up for taxes (diesel, business taxes, etc). Private mass transit like my bus is a freebie for the government and is milked to subsidize your stupendously wasteful government mass transit.

20 posted on 06/25/2010 4:25:19 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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