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Right to die billboard causes a big stir
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| 6/16/10
| Lisa Amin Gulezian
Posted on 06/19/2010 12:59:06 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Katya
Who mentioned regulation?
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posted on
06/19/2010 1:20:16 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: wagglebee
This is another strike against the Christian/Judeo tradition of our land. God is the only One who has the right to give or take a life. We are not our own.
This attitude of “it’s all about me” has brought America the obamanation...who is the poster picture of “it’s all about me”.
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posted on
06/19/2010 1:45:32 PM PDT
by
bareford101
(Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
To: Katya
I dont understand why the state thinks they should have an interest in the way an adult chooses to...die. Because the founders of this country said that the protection of innocent human life is the most important reason for the existence of human government. They called the right to life "unalienable," which had a very specific meaning in European property law. It all belonged to the sovereign, and was only lent to the occupant by that sovereign. It couldn't rightfully be taken from you, and you couldn't rightfully give it away.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men..."
This is the first principle of America, upon which our republican form of government and our liberty are premised.
This is why suicide has always been illegal in this country. Your life belongs to God, who is the Sovereign, not to you. And the state, which in America means the sovereign people collectively, governing through their representatives and duly-appointed officers, has a sworn constitutional duty to protect that life, the life of every single individual.
By the way, throughout history, when this cornerstone precept is abandoned in human societies, all hell breaks loose.
Abandon the self-evident truth that all men are created, and created equal, and respect for innocent human life, the lives of those who are made in His image, is the first thing to go. And then liberty simply melts away in the wake of that folly. All of human history is a record of the truth of what I'm saying.
To: Katya
People who support doctor assisted suicide/eutanasia never address the issue of euthanasia without consent - aka “murder” which invariably happens when doctor asssisted suicide/euthanasia is legalized. There have been a spate of articles about this lately.
Anyone who wants can commit suicide right this very minute.
People who want the the stamp of legal approval from the government, what to speak of medical assistance, are the true nanny state meddlers.
Keep your death loving suicidal impulses private and no one will say anything. Trying to get the government involved, and calling it “private decisions” is sheer hyporisy.
To: wagglebee
They don’t want control over their own lives and deaths. They want to corrupt our legal and medical systems, putting the rest of us at risk.
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posted on
06/19/2010 1:59:43 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
To: wagglebee
That is what they “say” but what they really want is to decide when you have lived long enough!
To: EternalVigilance; Katya
That’s a very insightful response. You took the basic lessons we all learned in elementary school, and applied a much deeper level of understanding.
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posted on
06/19/2010 2:08:55 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
To: BykrBayb
Thank you. If everyone would simply go back to those basic premises and refuse to compromise them, the republic would soon be secured.
To: little jeremiah
The stamp of legal approval is what Roe v Wade was all about!
To: bareford101
God is the only One who has the right to give or take a life R U against capital punishment?
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posted on
06/19/2010 4:09:53 PM PDT
by
Riodacat
(Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
To: chris_bdba
Right! A “right to die” will quickly become an obligation to die with
population pressures increase under socialism and enviro-wacko
regulations.
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posted on
06/19/2010 4:12:41 PM PDT
by
JimSEA
To: Riodacat
I believe that the Bible is clear on what the word used for “murder” is and it is different from the word used for “killing”. Murder is strictly forbidden in the 10 Commandments (OT) and I don’t see where that was changed in the NT. Police Officers and military have to kill, but they are not allowed to murder.
If you check it out on the internet, you will see that there are two different words.
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posted on
06/19/2010 5:01:52 PM PDT
by
bareford101
(Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
To: bareford101
I believe that the Bible is clear on what the word used for murder is and it is different from the word used for killing. Murder is strictly forbidden in the 10 Commandments (OT) and I dont see where that was changed in the NT. Police Officers and military have to kill, but they are not allowed to murder.
If you check it out on the internet, you will see that there are two different words. 6. Thou shalt not kill. (Exodus 20:2-17 KJV)
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posted on
06/20/2010 4:53:20 PM PDT
by
Riodacat
(Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
To: EternalVigilance
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posted on
06/20/2010 11:29:09 PM PDT
by
Pinkbell
To: trisham
Yes it was an especially good billboard. The picture was in black and white and very simple and so effective. It was hard to read the bottom of the sign, to find the organization that paid for the it. There are some good pro-life organizations here in WI.
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posted on
06/21/2010 10:07:29 AM PDT
by
TheConservativeParty
( I CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM MY BACK FORTY -Ass Kickin' Lady NRA Member)
To: Riodacat
The KJV was translated in the early 17th century using an archaic form of modern English. In the last 400 years, English has changed significantly. Unfortunately, the vast majority of those who read the KJV (both believers and unbelievers) are unqualified to know what the text means in many instances because of word meaning changes. In attempting to demonstrate the contradiction of God's commands to Israel and the sixth commandment, some people cite the KJV translation, "Thou shalt not kill." However, like English, Hebrew, the language in which most of the Old Testament was written, uses different words for intentional vs. unintentional killing. The verse translated "Thou shalt not kill" in the KJV translation, is translated "You shall not murder" in modern translations - because these translations represents the real meaning of the Hebrew text. The Bible in Basic English translates the phrase, "Do not put anyone to death without cause."2 The Hebrew word used here is ratsach, which nearly always refers to intentional killing without cause (unless indicated otherwise by context). Hebrew law recognized accidental killing as not punishable. In fact, specific cities were designated as "cities of refuge," so that an unintentional killer could flee to escape retribution.4 The Hebrew word for "kill" in this instance is not ratsach, but nakah, which can refer to either premeditated or unintentional killing, depending upon context. Other Hebrew words also can refer to killing. 1. Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions: râtsach (Strong's H7523) 1. to murder, slay, kill a. (Qal) to murder, slay 1. premeditated 2. accidental 3. as avenger 4. slayer (intentional) (participle) b. (Niphal) to be slain c. (Piel) 1. to murder, assassinate 2. murderer, assassin (participle) (substantive) d. (Pual) to be killed
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posted on
06/21/2010 2:46:05 PM PDT
by
bareford101
(Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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