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IPhone users check your data usage rates and times on your phone and chime in!
1 posted on 06/18/2010 8:47:45 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; Swordmaker

PING


2 posted on 06/18/2010 8:48:30 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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skynet has become self-aware


3 posted on 06/18/2010 8:55:52 PM PDT by Sax
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Existing users are grandfathered in to the $30 unlimited plan.


4 posted on 06/18/2010 8:57:14 PM PDT by Wayne07
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How about phone viruses that you get in RINGTONES, which use the wee hours of the morning to spread themselves to other phones?


6 posted on 06/18/2010 8:59:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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All your iPads are belong to us!


7 posted on 06/18/2010 9:04:34 PM PDT by ransomnote
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Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.


9 posted on 06/18/2010 9:09:31 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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That’s what happens when you make stuff in China.


10 posted on 06/18/2010 9:13:11 PM PDT by fso301
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I think I'm gonna dump the PDA and use my CB.

that would go over too well for business though :-)

seriously, it amazes me people cant see what is going to happen in the near future!

12 posted on 06/18/2010 9:34:27 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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Hopefully, this won’t effect those of us who were grandfathered in on the unlimited data usage contracts.


14 posted on 06/18/2010 9:38:56 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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Once again...AT&T is Satan.


16 posted on 06/18/2010 9:43:13 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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Iphones send data back to Apple folks, that’s just a fact. 10 MB a night seems excessive, but it definitely sends data back and forth, because you as a developer can see the crash logs if your app crashes on someones iPhone... if you choose to look at em.


22 posted on 06/18/2010 10:29:32 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Well, it seems that this is just an ATT data report left over from their legacy methodology from the old dial up reporting code. While the jury is still out, it is the best theory so far for a couple of very good reasons.

First: ATT continues to play dumb. And while they ARE dumb for trying to restrict data usage and a whole host of other piss poor management decisions, they DO know what is going on here. And number 2 will explain WHY they don’t wanna admit it.

Second: If this is just an aggregate reporting of usage, it means that ATT doesn’t truly KNOW how much data you are using at the time you are using it, and has to ASK your phone for a report. Now, if true, imagine what some jailbreaking coder could do with an app that would change the logs and essentially LIE to ATT when they ask the phone for the report??

If I was ATT using 1990’s tech for accounting, because I didn’t want to write some very new code to make reporting live for millions of data users, I sure as HELL wouldn’t admit it and let the jailbreaking coders get a heads up on finding a way around my anticquaited data reporting model.

This is the only theory that makes sense. Apps don’t phone home, Apple would ban them so fast. There isn’t any secret reporting being done, except by ATT for ATT. They are the only party interested at ALL in your data use. Cause they gotta CHARGE for it.

I’d also be VERY willing to bet that, knowing what I know about old school data dial up reporting, that it GUESSES about usage too. And this would also explain why some users are seeing their midnight reports as close to usage and others are way over.

We saw lots of this way way back on AOL when you had to pay by the minute for dial up. It was a dirty little secret that got known, just about the time that AOL got enough of a customer base to announce their unlimited dial up plans and sweep it under the rug. Old timers will remember or know of what I speak.

So, IMHO, mystery solved. ATT doesn’t have live tracking, is using an old legacy script to run in the middle of the night and just asks your phone “Say, iPhone, just checkin’ but how much data do you think you used today”?

And ATT does NOT want the whole world to know that they DON’T know and are guessing half the time. LOL

But now you do know...

And like someone else said... here come the class action lawsuits... especially once you get billed for the data of incoming iAds.

ATT & Apple is a marriage doomed to divorce and I for one can hardly wait!!


25 posted on 06/18/2010 10:35:55 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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Remove the sim card before you go to bed?


30 posted on 06/18/2010 11:27:14 PM PDT by Munson
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I’ve checked my data usage and this is NOT happening. I logged onto my AT+T account online and my 3G data usage is lower than I thought it wasl

...and I have a jailbroken phone using illegitimate tethering software.


31 posted on 06/18/2010 11:35:33 PM PDT by MediaMole
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Is your iPhone transmitting or receiving data unknown to you in the early AM hours? PING!


Apple iPhone Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

32 posted on 06/19/2010 12:02:37 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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Still have the old “unlimited” data plan. I suppose that will stick until I upgrade phones. Yet another reason to not get in a hurry to jump to the iPhone 4 just yet (though I am eligible).

Not sure what would be causing this - though there are many apps that, if you don’t specify otherwise - pull data regularly without you calling on it. First thing I would do is double check my Settings to see what, if anything, is set to receive “push” notifications and data. IN fact, if I were seeing this unexplained data use, I would probably turn off ALL data-using settings for a day or so to see if that cleared it up.

Without more info, I don’t know who I would first point a finger at. A good starting point, though, would be to see who has a financial interest in data being used (motive). That would start my look at AT&T. But until the specific source of the data usage is found - it is hard to say.

Should be interesting to see if this is being caused by user-installed apps, or if something in the subsystem is “calling home” with data...


35 posted on 06/19/2010 5:26:42 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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Digging into some of the posted message boards - it appears that the data usage is actually AT&T’s old legacy means of calculating data usage.

IT appears that AT&T gather’s data usage info whenever the phone is rebooted, or reconnects to the AT&T network. If none of those things happen during the day, then it automatically re-establishes a connection between 1 and 2 AM to transmit data.

Some users actually experimented by booting phone, downloading an app (noting the size), then rebooting their phone - that showed nearly immediately in their AT&T Data usage report online. The experiment then went on to NOT reboot the phone, keeping it on and then noticed that no further “data usage” showed on AT&T’s page until the 1-2AM time frame came around again.

So this appears to be aggregate data-use calculations happening. For those who go in and out of service areas and/or turn their phone all the way off/or use “airplane mode” form time to time will see the data use reporting more frequently.

My current usage according to AT&T’s “live” reporting for the last several days shows the same 1-2AM chunks of data reported, but there are two usage chunks reflected at more “normal” times - and I actually can put my finger on them - one was a reboot of my phone, the other was when I switched on Airplane Mode...

So this isn’t the nefarious “evil AT&T/Apple” debacle that some would like to make it out to be. It is just aggregate data use reporting (as best as can be determined - the numbers add up for me).

That being said - AT&T’s new data limits (new contracts) is insane. My most recent monthly data usage was well over the 200MB lower plan now offered...


36 posted on 06/19/2010 6:41:28 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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