[kidd]

I don’t think Obama will win the Dem nomination for the 2012 election.

Hillary Clinton will.
She has been placed into a position of importance, but at the same time did not have to vote for Obamacare, TARP, etc. Yes, she agreed with all of it, but didn’t actually vote for it.

So, there is a disadvantage to Obama’s numbers getting too low. If his disapproval numbers start chipping away at the support of black voters, then Hillary! is in as a candidate who has kept her nose clean.

[ScottinVA]

So, there is a disadvantage to Obama’s numbers getting too low. If his disapproval numbers start chipping away at the support of black voters, then Hillary! is in as a candidate who has kept her nose clean.

What will be key in 2012 is the damage to the democrats' brand, though. She can keep her own nose clean, but she's still one of the boogers in 0bie's nose.

[Scanian]

I thought that Slick taking on the unions in Arkansas during the primary was a clue. I think that Hillary might make a run on the basis of 0 being in the unions’ hip pocket to the detriment of everyone else.