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Michigan bar owners staging boycott against state over smoking law
WNDU South Bend IN ^ | 6-17-10 | Reporter: Jeff Blevins

Posted on 06/17/2010 3:57:54 PM PDT by Paul46360

If you're looking to buy a lottery ticket this weekend in Michigan there are some bars that won't be selling them.
That's because they're staging a boycott against the state over the new smoking laws they say is hurting their business, according to our reporting partners at WSJM, Benton Harbor, Mi.

An internet-born boycott has bar owners opposed to the smoking ban, taking part in the boycott. Those bars will not offer lotto games from 11a.m. Saturday to 2 a.m. Sunday.

One state official estimated the boycott could involve hundreds of bars, especially those along the Indiana border fighting to keep customers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bars; boycott; law; smoking
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1 posted on 06/17/2010 3:57:54 PM PDT by Paul46360
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The “no smoking in bars” laws have bankrupted many thousands of mom & pop bars across America.


2 posted on 06/17/2010 4:02:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Bet it has...yet the MSM will not report that.


3 posted on 06/17/2010 4:03:00 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Paul46360

No


4 posted on 06/17/2010 4:05:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Paul46360

If those particular bars along the border survived the hike in the drinking age to 21, they ought to be able to weather a no-smoking ban.

I remember when the bars in Niles relied particularly heavily on students from Notre Dame and other South Bend spots, as the drinking age in Indiana was 21 as long as I can remember and the drinking age in Michigan was 18.


5 posted on 06/17/2010 4:08:51 PM PDT by BuckyKat (Green is the new red.)
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To: Paul46360
If you're looking to buy a lottery ticket this weekend in Michigan there are some bars that won't be selling them.

Well, give me a drink then.

6 posted on 06/17/2010 4:10:36 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The “no smoking in bars” laws have bankrupted many thousands of mom & pop bars across America.

It's foolish for a bar proprietor to prevent a paying customer from enjoying a smoke at the risk of losing business.

The smokers will just go to another bar that allows it.

That's what makes America so great! : D

7 posted on 06/17/2010 4:13:47 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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I wonder if Michigan will counter by taking away their lottery machines. I would think Saturday nights are pretty big nights for lottery sales, especially Powerball (if Michigan has that).


8 posted on 06/17/2010 4:14:48 PM PDT by RabidBartender (The hardest part about tending bar is figuring out who's drunk and who's just stupid.)
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To: Paul46360

A good idea. Take the titty away from the state and watch it whine.


9 posted on 06/17/2010 4:16:08 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Paul46360

But what about the children?


10 posted on 06/17/2010 4:19:06 PM PDT by funfan
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To: EGPWS
The smokers will just go to another bar that allows it.

Not in Michigan they won't, this is a statewide law.
11 posted on 06/17/2010 4:20:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Florida has a law that prohibits smoking in restaurants. People can smoke in bars if the bar is not also a restaurant.

Admittedly, it’s nice to go out and not come back smelling like a chimney.


12 posted on 06/17/2010 4:20:30 PM PDT by bobjam
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” It’s foolish for a bar proprietor to prevent a paying customer from enjoying a smoke at the risk of losing business.

The smokers will just go to another bar that allows it.”

California banned them all 10 years ago. They estimate 3500 went under there in the first 5 years alone.


13 posted on 06/17/2010 4:22:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Ban liberals.


14 posted on 06/17/2010 4:23:25 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: cripplecreek
Not in Michigan they won't, this is a statewide law.

This is a nation of free states and under the Constitution nobody can tell anyone they can't enjoy something on their own property as long as that something is a legal product.

This isn't the Soviet Union after all!

15 posted on 06/17/2010 4:23:57 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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The “no smoking in bars” laws have bankrupted many thousands of mom & pop bars across America.

Please post links/backup that support your view????

And yes I have links for the opposing view.

All legitimate economic impact studies on business show either no economic effect or a positive one after a smokefree law goes into effect. When the issue of smokefree air arises, the tobacco industry will work hard to create dissent and fear. Their goal is to convince business owners and residents that the sky will fall if a smokefree law passes. Since 1987, the tobacco industry and smokefree opponents have consistently claimed that smokefree laws lead to a decrease in business in restaurants, bars, bingo halls, and billiard halls, usually by 20-50%, with an accompanying decrease in employment. These claims are totally unfounded. On the contrary, the number of peer-reviewed economic studies showing that smokefree laws have either no economic effect, or a positive one, continues to mount as more communities pass and implement strong smokefree laws

http://no-smoke.org/document.php?id=210

16 posted on 06/17/2010 4:25:01 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: EGPWS
"This isn't the Soviet Union after all!"

Not yet, but they're tryin'.

17 posted on 06/17/2010 4:25:15 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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They estimate 3500 went under there in the first 5 years alone

Yes, but how many lives were saved? /s

18 posted on 06/17/2010 4:25:40 PM PDT by FatherofFive (0bama is dangerous and must be stopped.)
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To: Drango

” All legitimate economic impact studies on business show either no economic effect or a positive one after a smokefree law goes into effect. When the issue of smokefree air arises, the tobacco industry will work hard to create dissent and fear. Their goal is to convince business owners and residents that the sky will fall if a smokefree law passes. Since 1987, the tobacco industry and smokefree opponents have consistently claimed that smokefree laws lead to a decrease in business in restaurants, bars, bingo halls, and billiard halls, usually by 20-50%, with an accompanying decrease in employment. These claims are totally unfounded. On the contrary, the number of peer-reviewed economic studies showing that smokefree laws have either no economic effect, or a positive one, continues to mount as more communities pass and implement strong smokefree laws”

Soooo you bought this bull$hit propaganda? Where did you dig this up?

I know a half dozen myself that went under.


19 posted on 06/17/2010 4:28:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: mylife
Take the titty away from the state and watch it whine.

I thought the state was the titty?

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20 posted on 06/17/2010 4:30:35 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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