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Sarah Palin: Marijuana is a 'minimal problem'
Politico ^ | 6/17/10 | Andy Barr

Posted on 06/17/2010 7:52:51 AM PDT by pissant

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To: Miztiki

Never heard of pot brownies I take it...

trumped.


161 posted on 06/17/2010 12:37:31 PM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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To: Huck; MrB
Therefore, to me, it seems insane to design a government dependent on good men. Completely hallucinatory to rest the fate of your liberty on that. Madness.

The Constitution put into practice the philosophy of Natural Law as expressed in the Declaration.

On what basis would you design a government? What should good government depend on?

162 posted on 06/17/2010 12:47:18 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Islam is a virus to be eradicated.)
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To: Jacquerie; Huck

Actually, the term “good men” is completely wrong.
There is no one good, not one.

A more accurate way of putting it is that a government founded in liberty (the first/only one in history) depended on a population that, in general, recognized and feared the authority of the Christian/Jewish God.

You can have a government founded in liberty on these assumptions, or you can have a government that isn’t based on individual liberty.

There is no piece of paper or contract that will maintain the freedom of the people if they are not internally governed. Not with the human race being what it is.


163 posted on 06/17/2010 12:51:11 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: momtothree

Agree with you wholeheartedly, mom! My college roommate’s grandfather had terminal colon cancer in his early 70s. Every time we saw him he was high as a kite, but that man was hale and hearty down to his last days. He never took a single pill they prescribed him and instead smoked pot all day, every day. He was so happy to be hungry and to be “relatively” pain free that he would smoke right in front of cops if he wanted to. He figured they weren’t going to do anything to him that the cancer wouldn’t take away soon enough.

He actually lived three years longer than the doctors gave him.


164 posted on 06/17/2010 12:56:48 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: wardaddy
I smoked it daily from 71-83 and 90-91 myself.

Jeez, just how old ARE you??? Oh, wait, you meant 1971-1983, etc... ;)

165 posted on 06/17/2010 12:58:07 PM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Motivation was the hardest part for me. I suffer from anxiety issue as well, so when I would smoke, it would quell the anxious feelings, but all of the stuff that made me anxious was still there when I wasn’t high. I decided to use the anxiety to my advantage and plowed through honey-dos and home improvement chores in the course of a few weekends.

Being sober now for 10 weeks, pot included, I can say my life is astronomically better than I ever imagined I could make it.


166 posted on 06/17/2010 12:58:43 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Wuli

It’s been the ultimate lesson of my young adult life, Wuli. I’ll never forget it, because I’ve lived on the other side, remember every bad thing about it and don’t want to become that person again.


167 posted on 06/17/2010 12:59:26 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Miztiki

Doesn’t really matter...if you grow pot to eat it, you still get in trouble. Pot brownies are illegal too. : )


168 posted on 06/17/2010 1:00:32 PM PDT by teenyelliott (www.thewaterrock.com)
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To: Huck; MrB
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." - Thomas Jefferson.

With what chains would Huck tie down government?

169 posted on 06/17/2010 1:00:50 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Every government must rest on some principle or passion in the minds of the people. - John Adams)
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To: Jacquerie; Huck

From what I understand of Huck,
he doesn’t believe our Constitution was adequate for tying down the government.

In actuality, unless the people recognize the authority of God, individual liberty and a government to protect it cannot exist.

I would love to hear the alternative composed of
a people not governed by any internal controls,
yet living in freedom under some governmental structure.

Just how can this be implemented?


170 posted on 06/17/2010 1:03:32 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: bamahead

LOL...I am rather amused by this statement of hers.


171 posted on 06/17/2010 1:12:54 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: MrB; Huck
I came across the following quote recently from Aristotle's "Politics," circa 350 BC.

A city can be virtuous only when the citizens who have a share in the government are virtuous, and in our state all the citizens share in the government;

My corollary: An immoral and decadent people who send dirtbags to Congress and the Presidency deserve the tyranny that will result.

For Huck, what do you think of John Adams' statement in my tag?

172 posted on 06/17/2010 1:13:28 PM PDT by Jacquerie (A people cannot be long free nor ever happy whose government is in one assembly - John Adams)
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To: Jacquerie
My corollary: An immoral and decadent people who send dirtbags to Congress and the Presidency deserve the tyranny that will result.

I would say that, yes, they deserve what they get (read Romans 1:18-),

but that it is INEVITABLE that they will live in tyranny, whether they "deserve" it or not.

173 posted on 06/17/2010 1:15:19 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: pissant

I am not a Sarah-bot in the least, but I must say that I agree with her.


174 posted on 06/17/2010 1:19:15 PM PDT by Paradox (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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To: Jacquerie

Re; your tagline. It’s obviously untrue. There are countless examples of governments that rest on brute force and intimidation.


175 posted on 06/17/2010 1:19:46 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: MrB
Just how can this be implemented?

You can forget that. What the Constitution created is here to stay, as long as there is a USA.

176 posted on 06/17/2010 1:24:33 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Jacquerie

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.

H. L. Mencken


177 posted on 06/17/2010 1:25:41 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: MrB
We always have government. Before the Constitution, we already have state governments and state constitutions and state bills of rights.

Was the national government created by the Constitution the least necessary to serve the common interests of the Union? I say the verdict is in, and has been in for quite some time now.

178 posted on 06/17/2010 1:27:55 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Huck
Huh? What are you smoking?

John Adams reflects Blackstone and Locke and Montesquieu that tyranny follows a government consolidated in one assembly, like Congress under your silly Articles.

179 posted on 06/17/2010 1:33:38 PM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failures of Central Planning)
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To: Huck

That’s right, democracy is a perversion of a republic, a notion.


180 posted on 06/17/2010 1:35:05 PM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failures of Central Planning)
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