Posted on 06/17/2010 1:47:48 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Pak wants US choppers to take on Al Qaeda
Washington: Pakistan is seeking attack helicopters and heavy weaponry worth $2.5 billion from the US to take the war against Al Qaeda into the mountains bordering Afghanistan, a report said on Wednesday.
"I have been ambassador here for two years, and all I have to show for it is eight second hand Mi-17 transport helicopters for a war that requires helicopters to root out Al Qaeda and the Taliban," Pakistan's ambassador to Washington Husain Haqqani told The Washington Times.
"Military operations would have been quicker and much easier to plan and execute if we had the equipment. We have had tremendous attrition and a lot of loss of lives because of not having the right equipment."
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Pakistan has a $2.5 billion wish list which includes new helicopter gunships, AH-1W and the Apache-64-D, armed helicopters such as the AH-6 and MD-530 Little Bird, and utility and cargo helicopters such as the UH-60 Black Hawk, the CH-47 D Chinook and the UH-1Y Huey.
Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said the US government was aware of its ally's wish list.
"The Pakistani military's interest in additional lift is well-known, and we have tried to help meet their needs by providing several Mi-17s. We will continue to try to help them acquire the helicopters and other equipment they require to defeat the insurgents and terrorists in their midst," Morrell said.
Pakistan's military last year reversed its policy of signing ceasefire pacts with local tribal governors as it did in 2007 and 2008 in the areas thought to be hiding places for Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders.
The new "silent surge", however, also has cost the lives of thousands of Pakistani soldiers, including generals.
The ambassador said Pakistan had lost more than 600 officers affiliated with the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), its powerful and influential military intelligence arm.
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Pakistani officials have said their forces have a total of just 26 combat and transport helicopters for a counter-insurgency war in a mountainous region where helicopters provide critical advantage.
But the Pakistani wish list also includes equipment not traditionally associated with counter-insurgency or mountain warfare. The Pakistanis are also requesting M1A1 tanks and M113A3 armoured personnel carriers as well as air-defence missiles such as the Stinger, the Javelin and the Hawk.
They also want unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), among the newest and deadliest high-tech arms.
Retired Lt. Gen. David W Barno, who commanded coalition forces in Afghanistan from 2003 to 2005, said the helicopters Pakistan wants would be useful to counter-insurgency operations.
"My sense is that all of those helicopters are useful in counter-insurgency operations, given the rugged terrain of western Pakistan. It is less clear that is the case with M1 tanks and air-defence missiles."
The US in the past has quietly attempted to dial back tensions between Pakistan and India, who have fought four wars in the past 60 years. A sale of battle tanks to Pakistan could set off alarms in India.
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"Anything on that list would upset the Indians," said Teresita C Schaffer, director of the South Asia programme at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
"That by itself is not really a criterion, though, for these arms sales. Of that list of things, the one that would be most incendiary for the Indians would be the UAVs."
Schaffer said that UAVs "are relevant to the terrorism agenda, but the Indians would see that as a way to do deniable attacks against India."
“I have been ambassador here for two years, and all I have to show for it is eight second hand Mi-17 transport helicopters”
OK. That’s what these countries see as the point of an ambassador, to get stuff.
NO UH-1Y Yankees ! we need um all ...
Tell them they can have all the choppers they want , IF
WE fly them and WE pick the targets and they give us the forward air bases and allow us to shoot anyone that tries to attack them .
But just hand them over , no!
Why do they need M1 tanks for counter-insurgency work?
India.
They aren’t going to exterminate their own progeny - the Taliban. They’ll only pretend to do so, to placate the West, and win military aid as well.
Also, it seems unlikely that the USA will be able to have much of a presence there in the future. Pakistan is one of the most anti Western countries in the World, we will probably not be able to build any military bases or significant relationships that will help ensure India that it isn’t in Pakistan’s interests to cause trouble. I understand why India wouldn’t trust the USA to maintain our Af/Pak strategy, it is looking more like we are going to cut and run from the region one day and we might just leave a more powerful Pakistan in our wake.
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