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Kathy Myers Shot Herself to Get Medical Care (VIDEO)
CBS News ^ | June 14, 2010 | Aina Hunter

Posted on 06/16/2010 7:44:21 PM PDT by Gondring

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To: DJ MacWoW
My worst pain was in the first 2 years.

That seems to be the magical number with cervical pain. I survived that first 2 with an occasional Darvocet, a TENS unit and Chiropractic care. I still go to the Chiro once a month. :)

I'm sorry you're still in so much pain. Have you tried any alternative therapies?

As for this nut who shot herself.... I'm very sympathetic towards those with chronic pain...but she wasn't out of the chute long enough to have "chronic" psychosis... which makes me believe she was off the nut before her injury. JMHO

101 posted on 06/16/2010 9:21:19 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: LaineyDee
but she wasn't out of the chute long enough to have "chronic" psychosis...

A month isn't quite chronic. Then again, some people have a low tolerance threshold for pain.

102 posted on 06/16/2010 9:26:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

True... but then I tend to be prejudiced by personal and professional experience. Who knows.....she could be an exception to the rule. :)


103 posted on 06/16/2010 9:52:07 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: CaptainK

You have to pay for COBRA coverage. She wanted free health care even if she had to shoot herself to get it. It’s just the entitlement mentality takes over their brains and they lose the ability to act in a reasonable manner.


104 posted on 06/16/2010 10:04:38 PM PDT by eggman (Grab a mop Mr. Gibbs! Your boss is making another mess.)
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To: Gondring

People like you and this woman are the problem. She only had to go to the ER and get her shoulder treated without shooting herself. Some rotator cuffs will heal by themselves if left alone long enough, not all but some and any ER will treat you if you walk in complaining of shoulder pain.


105 posted on 06/16/2010 10:10:22 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Gondring
Unless and until peoples' concerns are understood and addressed, conservatives will appear to be out of touch and lacking compassion.

...and poor liberals all across America will be shooting themselves left and right to try and get free health care. (There's something about this that doesn't sound so bad, you know.)

106 posted on 06/16/2010 10:21:32 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: Gondring

I would think you could sell the motorhome in the driveway for enough money to buy a decent health insurance policy.


107 posted on 06/16/2010 10:30:42 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: Gondring

I do have compassion. But the problem she shot herself for (a painful rotator cuff) is one that in socialised medicine countries she would probably wait for years to fix through the system.

You can get fast care in Canada and England for emergencies, but talk to some people who have pain issues and need surgery for non life threatening issues, like knee tears and such - they wait much longer than two months.

I remember reading a story about a Canadian woman just a while ago who mortgaged her house and came to the US for surgery rather than wait two YEARS or more in Canada. I think it was a back pain issue.


108 posted on 06/16/2010 10:42:45 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Gondring

She should have shot her dogs. Then she’d have more money and nobody tugging her shoulder.


109 posted on 06/16/2010 10:44:13 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: LaineyDee

Failed back surgery can wreck you.


110 posted on 06/16/2010 10:48:15 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: calex59
People like you and this woman are the problem. She only had to go to the ER and get her shoulder treated without shooting herself.

No..the problem seems to be a reading problem. Try again.

111 posted on 06/16/2010 10:50:29 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: I still care
You can get fast care in Canada and England for emergencies, but talk to some people who have pain issues and need surgery for non life threatening issues, like knee tears and such - they wait much longer than two months.

BINGO! But it's obvious that that message hasn't gotten out there.

Some FReepers (The Ostrich Brigade) want to ignore reality and put on their magical caps where everyone understands that, instead of getting their hands dirty and actually facing the fact that not everyone understands these things.

So the problem is there (person in pain), and many people see no solution but socialism. Unless conservatives make a good case to counter it, that's what many people will push for.

Please note that my comments are to clarify my point, not directing at you to question you or your commitment to the fight.

112 posted on 06/16/2010 10:56:02 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
[...] and yet she didn't have enough money to see a doctor......

What was the solution when she lost her job...abandon the dogs?

I'm just suggesting that she probably had the dogs before losing the insurance.

113 posted on 06/16/2010 10:57:12 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: mylife
How is ****ing yourself up to cheat the system a conservative thing to do?

I wouldn't say it is. Who did?

114 posted on 06/16/2010 10:58:36 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Wonderama Mama; Jim Robinson
I think Gondring is being sarcastic. Otherwise Gondrig is as stupid as kathy MYers.

I'm not being sarcastic. I'm pointing out that many people in this country are stuck on stupid--and vote. Even if we all see the problem with socialized health care, it doesn't mean everyone does. And so we can sit in a bubble and get outvoted while complaining, or we can try to educate and turn the electorate--the latter is what I'm advocating.

Perhaps my tagline helps to explain. Revere, Prescott, and Dawes crying "The British are coming!" was stating the problem. It didn't mean they WANTED the British to come. Similarly, I am pointing out the problem and suggesting we address it.

Too often, there's a lot of complaining and no action. Like on this...I bet I'm the only one on the thread who took the time to write to the station and point out that she didn't have to do this, and explained why, and requested a story covering options. I have no illusions about that spurring them into action, though...in most cases, I would suggest getting the word out to those who might have seen the story.

And I'm not saying every FReeper has to act on every story...I'm saying, though, that we can't expect the sheeple to understand why the seemingly easy road is the wrong road unless we take the effort to explain.

115 posted on 06/16/2010 11:11:19 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Government meddling with healthcare [...] is the chief contributor to healthcare prices that exceed what the average person can pay out of pocket.

Actually, I think that it's the human nature to want more-More-MORE!...to beyond their means. One could get 1970s health care--no MRI, no CT scan, etc.--quite cheaply, but nobody would find that acceptable. They have demanded advances beyond their ability to pay for the research, development, and equipment capital/operating costs.

The government meddling has exacerbated that problem.

[...]from the system for training and licensing doctors[...]

I don't want the government meddling in the training and licensing of doctors (and other professions), but I think that some of the self-policing hasn't been very good, either. Still, I like Dr. Rand Paul's alternative certification route. We need more of that.

[...] to the requirement of prescriptions for thousands of medications which pose no *public* health hazard [...]

AMEN!!!

Two of the folks at the FDA got quite irritated at me regarding this topic, and I honestly thought one was going to take a swing at me. :-)

116 posted on 06/16/2010 11:25:13 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: maine-iac7
last week he signed another EO that adds even MORE intrusive control on our lives - day to day - total control

THANK YOU! (for the heads-up)

Wow.

117 posted on 06/16/2010 11:27:11 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

I’d rather be “Clueless” than “Brainless” which appears to be your diagnosis tonight.


118 posted on 06/16/2010 11:27:18 PM PDT by Pavegunner72
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To: Pavegunner72
I’d rather be “Clueless” than “Brainless” which appears to be your diagnosis tonight.

No...my diagnosis is that you're clueless, not brainless. You made it to FR, after all, so you have a brain. Now get a clue and realize that not every American voter is here and agreeing with you. A great number of people are just going to follow whatever path they are shown and there are socialists very willing to show them that way...

... and no doubt many will hear of this story and knee-jerk to a socialist "solution." Sticking your head in the sand doesn't change the fact that there are those who need to be educated in why socialism fails and how conservative approaches are not lacking in compassion.

119 posted on 06/16/2010 11:33:29 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: CaptainK
Which I guess would mean she should be getting unemployment and her health insurance would carry on via COBRA for at least 18 months after she was laid off.

I'm sure that she didn't save up enough to pay for COBRA.

120 posted on 06/16/2010 11:36:58 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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