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Astrodome faces uncertain future
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 06/15/2010 | By David Barron - Houston Chronicle

Posted on 06/16/2010 11:22:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

For the better part of three decades, Paul Darst's daily job was to preside over the bells, whistles, snorting bulls and blazing six-shooters that roamed the original Astrodome scoreboard and, later, the video boards that ringed the stadium in the late 1980s and 1990s.

Darst now works next door as Reliant Stadium's technology wizard, and his duties rarely require him to walk to the Dome, whose floor now is ringed with risers, chairs and boxes of spare parts for its newer, more glamorous neighbor.

But then there are days like Monday, when Darst boarded a bus and traveled through the big Dome doors in center field, just as Bum Phillips, Earl Campbell and the Luv Ya Blue Oilers did on two memorable nights 30 years ago, inside the onetime Eighth Wonder of the World.

As Darst walked onto the floor of the Dome, which was opened for a rare media tour as Reliant Park's landlords rolled out plans Monday for the old stadium's redevelopment or destruction, he looked around … and remembered.

"Just history," Darst said. "All the things that were part of the past and things I was involved with, it all starts coming back to me. A lot of great things happened there, and you start reliving them."

Some of the trappings of Darst's dreams remain in place. The Astrodome, in fact, looks much as it did in 2005, when it served its last major public function as a refuge for Hurricane Katrina evacuees, and 2008, when it was a staging center for workers in the wake of Hurricane Ike. And, despite the absence of the beloved exploding scoreboard, it doesn't take much imagination to recall the glory days of the Astros and Oilers.

"I'm still somewhat surprised that the building still appears usable," said Willie Loston, executive director of the Harris County Sports and Convention Corporation, which oversees the county-owned complex. "I'm still pretty amazed when I go in there."

Blast from the past

The Dome's floor is laid out in its football configuration, absent the portable stands that surrounded the "catfish hole" field entrance behind home plate. The old sliding pits for first, second and third base are still visible in the bare concrete floor.

The Astros' championship banners have been taken down, as has the Stars and Stripes, although the Lone Star flag of Texas still hangs from the rafters. The hand-operated baseball scoreboard, one of Astros owner Drayton McLane's ideas to spiff up the aging Dome in the mid-1990s, is gone, but advertising signs remain in place for companies thriving (Coca-Cola and Waste Management), rebuilding (Wells Fargo) and about to disappear (Continental Airlines).

Upstairs on the fifth floor, the suites that taxpayers were blackmailed into bankrolling when Oilers owner Bud Adams threatened to leave town in the 1980s still have tables and cushioned chairs in place, ready for the next event.

Few visitors these days

From visitors' vantage point on the ninth floor, a few feet away from the original luxury boxes that have become so important to baseball and football economics at Reliant and other new stadiums, the Dome appears primed and ready to host an event – any event, from the baseball games and football games that were once its staples to the local family's bar mitzvah that was one of the last events staged at the Dome in 2003 or so.

Loston said Reliant Park workers rarely enter the Dome except for maintenance or security duties. As for four-legged occupants, he said, "I would be surprised if there are not cats in there. The building is not so secure that you could keep a cat out."

The days of feeding felines to keep the mouse population under control, however, are a thing of the past, he said.

Loston, by the way, is not wholly unemotional about the Dome himself. He first stepped on the field in the mid-1960s as a band member at Wheatley High School, part of an all-city band that performed the national anthem before one of the building's early events.

"From a personal basis, I've got a deep history with the building," he said. "For me, the exterior has more meaning than the interior."

But if the Dome remains under one of the options being considered by the county, the exterior could drastically change, with glass replacing the current concrete façade and solar panels depicting a map of the globe on the roof.

"Our intent is to update it, but not to the point that we make it unrecognizable or spoil visually what it means to so many of us," he said.

Three options on table

Now, Loston wants to hear from Harris County taxpayers on which of three options for Reliant Park they would prefer.

One option, to the tune of about $88 million, would demolish the Dome and use the land for a fountain that would replicate the building's familiar pattern of girders and ceiling tiles. That option also would call for more than $300 million in public funding to add convention space at Reliant Park and replace the aging Reliant Arena on the park's southeast side and, if a developer can be found, more than $300 million in private funds for a convention center hotel.

The second and third options, with the addition of private funding, could revamp the Dome and update Reliant Park's convention facilities at a cost ranging up to $1.35 billion.

"Everyone knows the Astrodome is an issue that has to be dealt with," Loston said. "Those of us who are close to the complex know that there are two issues — the Dome and the Arena. We're making the public aware that (the arena) is another issue that has to be addressed at some point in time. We think it's a good idea to do it in tandem with the Astrodome issue."

Public's input wanted

Harris County residents can offer their thoughts at Reliant Park's Web site - ReliantPark.com.

"I cannot wait to see what happens," Loston said. "I don't think it will take us long to find out where the public is. I don't think it will be a long tale on that. How you react is the next question."

Loston said he hopes to draw "well into the thousands" of responses and said the poll will remain active "as long as we're getting a reasonable stream of comments. If it slows to a trickle, we'll shut (the poll) down."




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1 posted on 06/16/2010 11:22:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’d buy it.


2 posted on 06/16/2010 11:24:08 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston PING

Don’t know why we have “non-compete” clauses in our contracts on the Reliant Stadium and Toyota Center when we still owned the Astrodome and Summit/Compaq Center.

We own all of the real estate. Our tenants can’t decree what we can or cannot do with our other already existing civic buildings when we are paying for their new civic buildings.


3 posted on 06/16/2010 11:25:52 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

many a oilers/astros game there did I witness. Terrible lighting but I loved going there nonetheless.


4 posted on 06/16/2010 11:26:03 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: Responsibility2nd

Slideshow.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/slideshows/Whats_next_for_Astrodome.html?c=n#1

I don’t know why the Astrodome evokes emotions over many other stadiums and fields, but it does.


5 posted on 06/16/2010 11:26:18 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: musicman

bflr


6 posted on 06/16/2010 11:29:09 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Super-Ultra-Mega-Monster-Jumbo-Giant-Extreme-WalMart....


7 posted on 06/16/2010 11:30:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thee was this on the Comical’s website yesterday. I’d be interested in seeing the full hour long (1975) documentary.

http://blogs.chron.com/bayoucityhistory/2010/06/1975_documentary_celebrates_10th_anniversary_of_th.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+houstonchronicle%2Fbayoucityhistory+%28Bayou+City+History%29

5 minute video embedded in the above link


8 posted on 06/16/2010 11:33:02 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: a fool in paradise
I saw Pink Floyd there in 1987.

It was awesome.

Saw some sports stuff too but it was less awesome.

9 posted on 06/16/2010 11:34:14 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Super-Ultra-Mega-Monster-Jumbo-Giant-Extreme-WalMart....

Or Super-Ultra-Mega-Monster-Jumbo-Giant-Extreme-Mega-Church....

10 posted on 06/16/2010 11:36:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ravi

I went there once as a kid in the pre-astroturf days. Don’t remember much.


11 posted on 06/16/2010 11:37:36 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Responsibility2nd
One option, to the tune of about $88 million, would demolish the Dome and use the land for a fountain that would replicate the building's familiar pattern of girders and ceiling tiles.

NO FOUNTAIN. Either it is worth preserving or it isn't.

Right now there are two stadiums situated on property designed for one. Turn it into parking to replace the parking lot surrendered for the Reliant Stadium IF it is to be torn down at all.

And then I will laugh, because while the former stadium sat in the middle of a vast parking lot, the newer stadium sits at the far edge of a vast parking lot meaning that everyone needs to hike even farther. And we gave up the people movers that used to drive people over to Astroworld.

PS our trolly sits beyond the farthest edge of our parking lot. WOOO WOOOO!!! < /digital train horn sound >

12 posted on 06/16/2010 11:39:14 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The second and third options, with the addition of private funding, could revamp the Dome and update Reliant Park's convention facilities at a cost ranging up to $1.35 billion.

And this would NOT compete with the George R. Brown how?

13 posted on 06/16/2010 11:40:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Bad News Bears played there in the 70s sequel ... You obviously can’t tear it down now! It’s a True Icon!


14 posted on 06/16/2010 11:40:53 AM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: dfwgator
I live about a mile away from the Dome. It is my understanding that it is falling apart inside, and would take many hundreds of millions of $$$ to make it safe again, so any refurb plans are merely politician-spewed propaganda. They know it can never be reinhabited.

The thing about the cats is kinda neat, though.

15 posted on 06/16/2010 11:41:09 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Meanwhile here in Dallas, we’ve torn down Reunion Arena and Texas Stadium within the last year alone.

Yet the Cotton Bowl still stands, go figure.


16 posted on 06/16/2010 11:42:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: I Buried My Guns
You need to be careful which reports you read telling you that it is “unsafe”. True the county is letting it fall into disrepair as they did with the Colosseum before it.

But the fire marshall started to apply fire codes that never applied to the Astrodome. THAT is what led them to say that it was no longer “safe” for anyone to enter.

17 posted on 06/16/2010 11:42:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: dfwgator

In Seattle they tore down one of their stadiums and at least when I travelled up there a few years ago were STILL paying off debts on it.


18 posted on 06/16/2010 11:43:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Post it on craigslist.


19 posted on 06/16/2010 11:47:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I remember the jet-pack flying around in the Astrodome in 1965, and Jimi Hendrix playing in the Coliseum.


20 posted on 06/16/2010 11:49:22 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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