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Calif man who killed alleged molester is sentenced
AP via SFGate ^ | 6/15/10

Posted on 06/15/2010 12:41:30 PM PDT by SmithL

Ukiah, Calif. (AP) -- A Northern California man who fatally shot a family friend accused of molesting him for years was sentenced Tuesday to nine years in prison in the vigilante shooting.

Aaron Vargas, 32, was sentenced after pleading no contest to voluntary manslaughter in the death of 63-year-old Darrell McNeill.

Vargas said McNeill began sexually abusing him when he was 11

. . .
several other people ... came forward to say McNeill had molested them.

Hundreds of supporters ... asked authorities for leniency for the shooter.

. . .

Judge Ronald Brown said he imposed the harsher sentence because he believed Vargas had gone to McNeill's house with the intent to kill him, and that the use of violence to solve problems would only encourage more violence.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aaronvargas; activistcourts; childmolestation; darrellmcneill; homosexualagenda; judicialactivism; molester; rapeandrevenge; vigilantism
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To: Tamar1973
If the State refuses to do so, then it’s God’s job, not ours.

you settle your scores your way....

.....I’ll settle mine, my way. Don’t cram your beliefs down my throat...

read the Declaration of Independence for example...if the state does not hold up its end of the bargain it is my right to do what I have to do.

We are Americans, we are not sheep...

41 posted on 06/15/2010 1:21:23 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SatinDoll
Encouraging molesters is what this Judge has actually achieved.

You think that a molester will actually want to do more, simply and directly because the person who murders him will get a jail sentence?

I realize that we're all trying to keep our sanity despite the moronic deluge that the MSM feeds us daily... but you cannot seriously think that your statement makes any logical sense whatsoever.

Molester threads are always the worst, because reason and logic immediately get tossed by most posters.

42 posted on 06/15/2010 1:24:16 PM PDT by Teacher317 (It's Islam)
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To: downtownconservative
Yeah, and I’m thinking this judge is gay.

I was thinking the same thing... probably gay - this is California.

43 posted on 06/15/2010 1:24:24 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Tamar1973

“This was a revenge killing, not a killing in self defense. “

Could we also look at it as a “protection” killing? As in protecting the molester’s next victims?


44 posted on 06/15/2010 1:25:25 PM PDT by Persevero (Replace Howard Dean with Alvin Greene!)
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To: Vaquero

Ummm... The Declaration of Independence does not authorize you to attack citizens in the case of governmental failures to punish them to the degree you personally see fit. (It mentions a bit about throwing off governments, however.) It is also not a legally binding document. Your beliefs are not grounded in any historical, legal, religious, or logical basis.


45 posted on 06/15/2010 1:26:27 PM PDT by Teacher317 (It's Islam)
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To: Tublecane

“Either we believe you can kill only in self-defense, or we don’t. The fact that the victim did something wrong to him years ago is irrelevant.”

That is true, except, we don’t get justice for child molesters in this country. So we leave people with the choice of pretty much taking it or doing something about it.

If our criminal justice system was just with the child molesters, I’d agree with you completely. Since it isn’t, my sympathy lies with the shooter.


46 posted on 06/15/2010 1:26:50 PM PDT by Persevero (Replace Howard Dean with Alvin Greene!)
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To: SmithL

Was this a jury trial? Did the jury find him guilty? A jury had the authority to find him innocent, had it wished.


47 posted on 06/15/2010 1:31:44 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: servantboy777

, then it’s God’s job, not ours<<
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Like the professor kept saying “There is no God, God doesn’t exist etc etc...if God existed he would send me a sign that he was upset with me. If God existed let him strike me down”
Several minutes later a football player rose, went to the professor and knocked him on his butt. The professor, sputtering, threatening etc and the assaulter just said “God is busy and I am handling this for Him.”


48 posted on 06/15/2010 1:33:09 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 ) FIRE ALL INCUMBENTS)
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To: SmithL

Another judge that should never have been on a bench


49 posted on 06/15/2010 1:33:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Tamar1973
This was a revenge killing, not a killing in self defense. He deserved some jail time.

Agreed. 6 months and a 'Bad Dog'.

50 posted on 06/15/2010 1:34:40 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: Teacher317

right it was not a legally binding document in 1776 when it was used to break the law.

so that is how you view it...you would have been a laugh riot in the colonial militia.

we are in a nation of laws that are being trampled on by the current regime. and why should I worry about the law?

to protect a child molester.

have fun in the interment camps....


51 posted on 06/15/2010 1:36:26 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Persevero

“That is true, except, we don’t get justice for child molesters in this country. So we leave people with the choice of pretty much taking it or doing something about it”

In other words, vigilantism is justified. Bring on the lynchings!


52 posted on 06/15/2010 1:37:32 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Persevero

“Could we also look at it as a ‘protection’ killing? As in protecting the molester’s next victims?”

No. This isn’t “Minority Report.” There are no future crimes.


53 posted on 06/15/2010 1:38:36 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SmithL

Wonder if the judge is this tough with real perps?

This guy should be kicked loose and given a medal and maybe some cash for saving the state some money.


54 posted on 06/15/2010 1:39:20 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: Tublecane
maybe we need vigilantism???....there might be some justice then. it only got a bad name in America when it was used as a racist tool.

the ‘bottom dwellers’ (read that as lawyers)have had their time to play long enough....they suck at it

55 posted on 06/15/2010 1:41:27 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Teacher317

“You think that a molester will actually want to do more, simply and directly because the person who murders him will get a jail sentence?”

No, that is not what I believe I said or meant to say.

Let me try again.

Harshly sentencing an abuse victim who kills their molester discourages victims from tracking down their tormentor and seeking justice, legal or otherwise.

Therefore the Judge’s action inadvertantly encourages OTHER molesters to keep seeking victims.

Nothing does a better job of stopping abuse against women than the business end of a gun in the face of an abuser or rapist.

Unfortunately, child molestors choose to offend against the most vulnerable members of society. Their redress is often years later and after the molester has horribly harmed potentially dozens of victims.

I have ZERO sympathy for known child molestors.


56 posted on 06/15/2010 1:44:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Vaquero

“it only got a bad name in America when it was used as a racist tool”

Well, that’s patently untrue. Yes, some people pretend as if, for whatever reason, only black people were ever lynched. I’d bet my life savings more whites than blacks were lynched in American history. But that’s beside the point. Lynching is bad and has been denounced by reasonable whether or not blacks are involved. Ever read “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn”?


57 posted on 06/15/2010 1:47:30 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SmithL
Judge Ronald Brown said he imposed the harsher sentence because he believed Vargas had gone to McNeill's house with the intent to kill him, and that the use of violence to solve problems would only encourage more violence.

Yes, Judge. Keep deluding yourself. You members of the Pervert Protection Party don't seem to realize the storm you are creating. People get longer sentences for improperly filling out govt paperwork than they do for violent felonies in our current age. When the storm breaks it will sweep you robed criminals away too.

58 posted on 06/15/2010 1:47:43 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Vaquero

“Lynching is bad and has been denounced by reasonable whether or not blacks are involved” = Lynching is bad and has been denounced by reasonable people whether or not blacks are involved.


59 posted on 06/15/2010 1:49:19 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SmithL

Damn right he went there with the intent to stop this monster from hurting any child ever again.

That it took him years to find this courage is the tragedy.

Guess this judge has never had a family member raped or abused.

Judges just don’t get it.


60 posted on 06/15/2010 1:55:46 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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