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There are many big bangs in waiting all over the world.
1 posted on 06/14/2010 5:43:39 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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2 posted on 06/14/2010 5:43:57 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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Demonstrating just how far the fund is willing to go in the "for broke" category, knowing full well that if it repeats AIG's implosion, the government will likely bail it out [...]

Good ol' Illinois-style fascist economics...

"In actual fact, it is the State, i.e. the taxpayer, who has become responsible to private enterprise. In Fascist Italy the State pays for the blunders of private enterprise. As long as business was good, profit remained to private initiative. When the depression came, the Government added the loss to the tax-payer's burden. Profit is private and individual. Loss is public and social."
--Under the Axe of Fascism, by Gaetano Salvemini, p. 416 (1936).
On the bailouts, which were targeted to large corporations but not small businesses:
"In December 1932 a Fascist financial expert, Signor Mazuchelli, estimated that more than 8.5 billion lire had been paid out by the Government from 1923 to 1932 in order to help depressed industries (Rivista Bancaria, December 15th, 1932, p.1,007). From December 1932 to 1935 the outlay must have doubled."
--Under the Axe of Fascism, by Gaetano Salvemini (1936).

3 posted on 06/14/2010 5:51:29 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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All it will take is another Flash Crash-like event, or a liquidity crunch, and the 355,000 "full-time, part-time and substitute public school teachers and administrators working outside the city of Chicago" will likely end up with a big, fat donut in their retirement portfolios courtesy of some deranged lunatic, portfolio manager, situated externally at a bank like Goldman Sachs, who in taking a page straight out of Obama's bailout nation, has decided there is no such thing as risk. And to those naive enough to think the TRS is the only such fund which has now gone all-in on "no risk and infinite return", wait until such stories start emerging about every single massively underfunded pension and fully insolvent fund in the US.

It couldn't happen to a more deserving group of greedy underperforming overpaid unionists.

4 posted on 06/14/2010 5:57:00 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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Geez, whereinhell can I (or any private investor) buy a CD swap on Illinois debr regarding teacher/education pensions?

I'll **cheerfully** pay anyone who offers a solid and doable recommendation on this!

Talk about toast, good grief! Their pension system is absolutely guaranteed to fail w/in 10 yrs' time, and no way on this planet to bail it out.

What do I have to pay? 400 bp? 600? Even 900 is highly acceptable from a risk standpoint.

DEFINITE CASH AWARDS (and HAPPY to pay them) to anyone who can steer me to a bank/lender/financier dumb enough to sell CD swaps on the IL 'education' pension fund!

Good trading to all, SAJ

5 posted on 06/14/2010 6:02:54 PM PDT by SAJ (Zerobama? A phony and a prick, ergo a dildo.)
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The only thing more pathetic than progressives attempting to practice economics is progressives attempting to understand science.


6 posted on 06/14/2010 6:03:24 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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BTTT


7 posted on 06/14/2010 6:04:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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it is the fourth-riskiest investment portfolio for a pension fund in the U.S!

Wonder who the top three are and how deep in the doo-doo they are?

9 posted on 06/14/2010 6:28:04 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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amazing!!


11 posted on 06/14/2010 6:52:45 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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Demonstrating just how far the fund is willing to go in the "for broke" category, knowing full well that if it repeats AIG's implosion, the government will likely bail it out, is the disclosure that a stunning 81.5% of the fund's investments are considered risky - this means it is the fourth-riskiest investment portfolio for a pension fund in the U.S!

Fundamentally, the U.S. government is allowing pension fund managers to gamble with U.S. taxpayer funds. Since those managers have no particular fiduciary responsibility to the U.S. taxpayer, allowing them to free-roll with U.S. taxpayer money is a recipe for disaster.

That having been said, are they really on the 'insurer' rather than 'insured' side of credit default swaps? If so, I would think that would open them up to liabilities larger than any assets they could possibly possess.

18 posted on 06/15/2010 3:46:06 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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