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To: DoughtyOne

number one I don’t support either Jd or McCain. Out of the two imo MCCain is probably the better choice for long term conservative propects if and only if we elect a conservative into a leadership position in the WH. But understanding that and making a decision based on those thoughts is not the same as supporting him. your faliure to grasp that shows your lack of critcal thinking. I can not defend a lot of McCain’s positions, I do not agree with him on a number of issues but I still understand he is the better choice for conservatives if we elect a conservative to the WH. The two are not mutally exclusive ideas.

Palin has not gifted anything. She was returning a favored owed. Its called loyalty.

Jd voted for medicare part D a trillion dollar boondoggle, he accepted money for the pay to play scheme of Jack ambromoff(sp) to name just two things.


417 posted on 06/12/2010 11:20:40 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1
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From watching McCain its pretty clear he changes what he supports and what he doesn't depending on the winds of the politics of the day. McCain might support any number of things if the winds change. I don't support McCain never cared for the man much. JD is no better he is another big spending insider politician.

Out of the 2 IMO McCain will give conservatives more power in DC if we elect a conservative into leadership position in the WH in 2012. McCain will once again go along with the political winds. He will be a very powerful asset in the Senate. JD will be a Jr senator form a small state. I support Gov Palin not McCain. Your trying to equate the two is beyond stupid. they are clearly different and have different policies and ideas. Your failure to grasp that speaks of your lack of logic or willful attempt to bash Palin.

Post two

Number one I don’t support either Jd or McCain. Out of the two imo MCCain is probably the better choice for long term conservative propects if and only if we elect a conservative into a leadership position in the WH. But understanding that and making a decision based on those thoughts is not the same as supporting him. your faliure to grasp that shows your lack of critcal thinking. I can not defend a lot of McCain’s positions, I do not agree with him on a number of issues but I still understand he is the better choice for conservatives if we elect a conservative to the WH. The two are not mutally exclusive ideas.

Palin has not gifted anything. She was returning a favored owed. Its called loyalty.

Jd voted for medicare part D a trillion dollar boondoggle, he accepted money for the pay to play scheme of Jack ambromoff(sp) to name just two things.

The "It's not an amnesty", "She didn't quit", "She doesn't support what he does", "This isn't support", "It's not a gift", Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, Fiengold, Lieberman, Tides Foundation, wing of the Republican party once again rears it's ugly head.

Look, you can't say you don't support the man then explain why he's the best choice.  Explaining why he is the best choice over Hayworth is support. 
You can't trash J.D. Hayworth then claim you're impartial.  Trashing J.D. does not evidence impartiality.  It evidences support or preference for someone else.

Well, I don't agree with J.D. voting for Medicare Part D.  I criticized those that did in the day, and I still hold them accountable.  As for Jack Abromoff, I confess to still not knowing all the particulars.  It still doesn't make J.D. anything near the level of John McCain.  Was J.D. prosecuted?  Was he found guilty?  John was the largest recipient of money amongst the Keating Five, at $100,000.00.

IMO the only reason he skated during those days, was because the Democrat leadership found it pretty darned desirable to have someone in the Republican ranks that would do their bidding.

Even in the middle of the 1980s, who was John McCain consorting with?  Who were the other Keating five members?  They were all Democrats.  Who disagreed with Reagan's Lebanon policy?  Who disagreed with Reagan's Lybia policy?  The Democrats had little Johnny Boy the Maverick obediently trailing five steps behind, as he "led the way for Conservatism" in those days.

You call me a one percenter when I document and list of hundreds of things McCain has done over the years, and say I can't support him or anyone who does.  Then you post two things Hayworth has done and declare him unsupportable, even though part of McCain's hundreds of things is precisely the same thing.  Didn't McCain vote for TARP?  Why yes he did.

McCain is the worst Repbulican in our party's history.  And guess who has spent months polishing his resume in Arizona?

And look at that resume:  http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


424 posted on 06/12/2010 12:27:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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