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Fishermen Fined For Overfishing In Lake Erie
News 5 Cincinnati ^ | 6/11/10 | Cincinnati News

Posted on 06/11/2010 5:38:27 AM PDT by Howard Morrison

SANDUSKY, Ohio -- Six fishermen from Tennessee and Georgia will have to pay a high price for violating Ohio fishing regulations.

The men were fined $16,000 and had to forfeit three bass boats, trailers and two freezers full of fish for overfishing in Lake Erie.

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To: Howard Morrison
Tell me there's not a war of fishing!

The so called "sportsmen" of Northern Wisconsin have been over fishing the lakes and streams of Upper Michigan for many years. The worst are the professional guides who take their clients up there to show off their knowledge of an area they don't belong, day after day after day after day, or pretty much the entire fishing season. I have never had a problem with the ones who vacation there or even buy property and pay taxes. The ones who cross over the border every day just to fish, I have no use for. There has been a war over fishing between the States since before we were United. Just look at the border between Maryland and Virginia sometime and look into how it turned out that way.

61 posted on 06/11/2010 7:13:23 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: jetson

Wanna bet the Asians just have a longer cultural history of dealing with micro-managing bureaucratic asshats?


62 posted on 06/11/2010 7:13:43 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I know the article doesn’t say this, but doesn’t that mean that the rods and tackle should be taken ?

In a drive-by shooting, guns and vehicles are confiscated - even guns not used in the crime (Makes sense). But if someone drove to a bank and threatened to rob it (Remember.. Non-violent crime there) would they confiscate the car he drove there too ?

This seizure of the boat seems like a way to generate revenue at auction. And it’s basically theft. Taking fishing gear would be similar to taking a cat-burglar’s lock picks. Taking the boat is similar to taking the cat burglar’s car.

Of course, lock-picks are apples to oranges as well. Were I stopped with a lock-pick set and no credentials to have one, it would be seized from me as well.

I still can’t find an accurate metaphor here. Maybe when it comes to fishing, the “Vehicle” can certainly be the tool in the commission of a crime.


63 posted on 06/11/2010 7:21:13 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity
"Maybe when it comes to fishing, the “Vehicle” can certainly be the tool in the commission of a crime."

And that's my problem with the tortured logic that frequently gets applied to these laws. By that same stretch, the breakfast the guy ate that morning contributed to the commission of the crime, as did the refrigerator, toaster and coffee pot he used to prepare the breakfast. Likewise, the clothes he was wearing, the credit card he used to buy the fishing tackle, the wallet he used to carry the credit card, the roll of stamps and box of envelopes he used to apply for the credit card, the roll top desk he used to keep his envelopes and stamps, the house and property in/on which he "plotted" the heinous crime of fish poaching, reductio ad absurdum.

64 posted on 06/11/2010 7:34:18 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Monterrosa-24
I saw a deer hunter get his car confiscated because he shot a doe during buck season, admited his mistake at the management area check-in station, where he was handcuffed.

Carry a set of antlers just in case you make that "mistake", and be sure to field dress the carcass, removing the telltale items. < /sarc >

65 posted on 06/11/2010 7:41:57 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: cripplecreek

Most states have limits on size and number of game fish, usually per day, but others have a “possession” limit. In some cases that’s one day’s catch.


66 posted on 06/11/2010 7:43:46 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: The Free Engineer

i think you can only KEEP five per day. You can CATCH as many as you want, and promptly release them.

not sure the article explains that clearly. If they were caught with 146 fish in their possession, then they are in serious trouble.


67 posted on 06/11/2010 7:44:37 AM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Industry used to be terrible polluters. I tested for watershed pollution for a geology class and it was clear some businesses were killing nearby streams with direct dumping. They don’t do that anymore and we’re all the better for it. That doesn’t mean I support all Enviro regs. Some are too strict now and require people to adopt expensive waste management that makes no difference.


68 posted on 06/11/2010 8:06:00 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

Agree completely.
SO2 and SOX and the metals should be scrubbed from industrial exhausts. Ground water should be protected.

CO2 control is pointless.


69 posted on 06/11/2010 8:08:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Net all of the Carp and ship them to farms as fertilizer, the only thing they are good for.


70 posted on 06/11/2010 8:30:16 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Mister Da
They certainly deserved a fine, but $16,000 is excessive. The forfeitures are just stealing.

Agreed.

71 posted on 06/11/2010 8:34:11 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: GraceG
"Net all of the Carp and ship them to farms as fertilizer, the only thing they are good for."

You've obviously never had karpfen blau...

The vinegar that turns the fish blue also leaches out the classic "muddy" taste most people expect in carp. With just a touch of horseradish, it's quite delicious and the meat is dense, white and flaky, albeit somewhat bony...

72 posted on 06/11/2010 8:36:04 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Erie is probably one of the finest walleye fisheries in the Nation.


73 posted on 06/11/2010 8:39:18 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

Gotcha. I stand corrected.


74 posted on 06/11/2010 9:25:14 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: mikelets456
I am a sport fisher and believe there is a limit even if I am catching quite a bit... especially in fresh water. Not because the government says so, but as a courtesy to fellow anglers. Salt water is a different story...

Back in the 70s my boys and I did a lot of party boat rock cod fishing off the SoCal coast. Dunno what the limits are now but in those days it was 15. The normal rig was a 5-hook shrimp fly rig but we took the "bigger lure = bigger fish" route and and routinely used only one lure/jig. We still consistently caught more than the limit but what we did on the way home was to dump the bag, pick out the 15 biggest fish, and let those who didn't limit out fill theirs. The skippers loved it as the overall catch made them look like they limited out all the time. There never was any waste as there was always people who didn't catch many. Never felt like we were wiping out the stock - coming up from deep water (200-300 feet) caused the fish's air bladders to swell, so they could never get back down.

On the flip side, we fished the shallow Chesapeake Bay and caught nothing but babies. We threw them back over the cries of distress of many on board who couldn't see that small fish grew bigger if given a chance.

75 posted on 06/11/2010 9:41:37 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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