Beware of Trojan Horses (Mod Lecture Series)

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[Admin Moderator]

This is just a quick note to everyone. Lately, a lot of people have discovered a video that supposedly is by a Hawaii official that claims there is no Hawaii Birth Certificate for the President.

We have no idea as to the legitimacy of this claim however, we need to warn everyone that the source of this video is a group called The Council of Conservative Citizens. This is NOT a Conservative group, do not be fooled by the name. This group is a front group for a neo-Nazi group known as the National Alliance and is associated with Stormfront.

Sources such as this are not welcome at Free Republic for obvious reasons. If you see this video posted, please report it to us through the abuse button so we can remove it.

These groups have a history of creating front groups or websites to try to sneak into the mainstream. Another site that you may see a lot that works like this is the EU Times. From what we've found, they are associated with a pretty nasty European Neo-Nazi group.

We don't expect everyone to check every single source, especially as some do stay under the radar. Just stay vigilant and know that sites like this are out there.

That is all. You may return now to your regularly scheduled broadcast.

[rolling_stone]

I believe he prefaced his remarks with in his (their ) professional opinion obie didn’t have a long form..thus the weasel words to get off the hook..

[McGruff]

Thanks for the heads up. We'll smoke them out.

[PghBaldy]

I went to CofCC website, and they have the Tim Adams’ YouTube vid there. WND has picked up on it now, which will surely help their rep /sarc

[Admin Moderator]

We received a note from a member asking to give a little evidence of the relationship between CofCC and these groups. This is what he sent us and is just a small fraction of the information we have on this group (direct copy of the email with links broken):
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Links on the bottom left under European Allies. They include the BNP and Front National.
http://cofcc_dot_org/

Also, under “recent activity” you’ll see they have been on Derrik Black’s radio program- that would be Radio Stormfront for those not in the know. Derrik Black is Don Black’s son (Stormfront founder)

James Edwards, the founder of cofcc and the host of the radio program you are listening to is actually part of Stormfront.
http://mediamatters.org/print/research/200808150009

On the YouTube video, Stormfront logos start appearing at the 1:51 mark.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2417dww.jpg

..and just for the icing on the cake, their links page is chalked full of white nationalist crap.
http://cofcc_dot_org/links-database/ including the always fun “Euro Pride apparel” whose URL is white-pride_dot_org

[mnehring]

Thanks for posting. Some folks can’t see the nose on their face. Speaking of which, ping.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” “Tim Adams” is doing something similar to what the 9 employees of the firm in Iowa are being prosecuted for doing. The 9 were “peeking” at Obama’s records and were caught because their computer access events had an audit trail.”

We don’t even know THIS for sure, so it is wise for FR err on the side of caution.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Thanks for the info. I have have never heard of them.

[Smokeyblue]

World Net Daily now has an article interviewing Tim Adams. There is no video or connections to nefarious organizations.

Will this article be allowed to be posted?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165041

WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.

[Sophia777]

Why don’t people trust WND?

What specifically have they said that is blatantly untrue.

[Uncle Chip]

If he is legit, he can give his information and/or interview to a legit source.

Exactly -- Thanks for the caution.

[McGruff]

BUMPING

For whoever just posted another thread without reading this one.

[Natural Born 54]

Could you please help? The Sidebar Mod (I am sorry I do not know how to FReep mail any Mod) pulled three threads from this morning that were based on a story about Tim Adams but the article linked was at WND. I think the mod who pulled the threads saw “Tim Adams” and assumed they were from the “Trojan Horse” source that is the subject of this thread. Could you please consider restoring those threads? One of them was titled “Hawaii elections clerk: Obama birth not here” and the link to the WND story is this URL: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165041.

There were tons of pings on this thread and it is potentially a very important story. Anyone looking at FR today and not seeing it would definitely be shaking their head and wondering how we could have missed it. Thank you for any assistance you may be able to render.

[Natural Born 54]

The story is now at WND and that is considered a legit source here as far as I know. Even so, they got pulled - I believe in error. What thread are you pointing a finger at?

[Kleon]

The story is now at WND and that is considered a legit source here as far as I know. Even so, they got pulled - I believe in error. What thread are you pointing a finger at?

Isn't WND simply repeating the statements from the white supremacist group? It doesn't exactly wash it clean.

[Albion Wilde]

ping

[pissant]

Now why did you guys pull the WND article where WND actually interviewed this guy AS WELL AS VERIFIED his claims of working for HI elections and teaching at WKU??

[Red Steel]

Isn't WND simply repeating the statements from the white supremacist group? It doesn't exactly wash it clean.

Nowhere in that article was he acting as a white supremacist in a group.

[Red Steel]

I meant to ping you above. Wrong NBC ;-)

[1234]

Thanks for the elucidation.

Well, we will see if Mr. Adams surfaces in another venue or not to continue his story.

if he survives...

[little jeremiah]

I hope the mod answers.