Posted on 06/09/2010 6:19:25 AM PDT by Willie Green
If the trains from NYC to DC and DC to NYC were one way and dumped into their related water ways, I could support this idea.
EPA studies kill these things before they ever get started.
Pay for your own toys without spending tax money.
The Erie canal shipped freight. Moving commerce will always improve your economy. If moving people fast on high speed rail would improve your economy then Europe and Japan would dominate the world already. The fact is our private rail is more efficient at moving freight then their rail. In fact Europe moves most of its commerce by trucks on highways. Europe has a lot to learn from the U.S. in moving commerce. The problem moving people by rail in the U.S. is that rail is competing with highways. You would have to triple the price of gasoline and charge sky high tolls to get people travel by rail. This is what Europe and Japan do.
We have airplanes if one wants to go fast. We are to spend untold billions to save an hour? As long as it’s not tax money, fine. Otherwise it’s Amtrak 2.
Moving commerce will always improve your economy. If moving people fast on high speed rail would improve your economy then Europe and Japan would dominate the world already.
That's a silly objection.
Business commuters ARE commerce.
And since when has Japan become an example of a non-competitive economy?
I keep saying, don’t give this bunch any bright ideas about rebuilding the Erie Canal...
‘the high-speed line would travel east by tunneling beneath Long Island’
BIG DIG 2-—the Sequel.
So Willie, does you band play any songs other than “Loco-Motion” (Little Eva 1962)?
I just dream of making the northeast corridor as “competitive” as possible. We'll all be SO much better off.
Yes, our nation would be "SO much better off" if we shot ourselves in the partisan foot and starved the northeast corridor into economic collapse and submission.
/sarc
(Good grief... no WONDER "the Stupid Party" can't get elected in this region.)
If you are only moving people you will not improve your economy. It is silly to compare the Erie canal to high speed rail. One moved freight and helped to industrialize America. The latter moves people only and has limited ability to improve the economy. This article was trying to compare the two in which there is no comparison.
It is silly to compare the Erie canal to high speed rail.
It'silly to imply that settlers didn't migrate westward as passengers on the Erie canal.
Freight may have been shipped back east, but it was people who were moving west.
Correct. They moved. They didn't commute. And the freight lines followed them.
I keep saying, don’t give this bunch any bright ideas about rebuilding the Erie Canal...
Hey! Thanks for the inspiration!
I just found a Great YouTube for that also!
“In preparing this report, Penn faculty and graduate students were aided by top transportation and economic development professionals. Scholars from both the United States and the United Kingdom participated in developing the studio’s recommendations, giving its recommendations real credibility.”
“Scholars” = Marxism impaired members of the Academented Nomenklatura.
“Penn faculty and graduate students” = appeal to Ivy league aura of infallibility.
The basic premise needing examination is whether AMerica should be crammed into a seething mass of UberUrban development?
Huge urban areas are dependent on centralized large government. That is what differentiates America from Europe.
We are decentralized, land owning, sovereign citizens.
Europeans are subjects acted upon by their Ubermenschen in the agencies of their multitudinous levels of government.
IMHO, America is best served by a historic demographic, not crime ridden “Urban Paradises” like NYC (America’s finest example of Big Sh*tty run amock).
And, let us not forget the many smaller, but all too real examples of the socialists “Big Sh*tty end game. I refer, of course, to “The Debacles in Blue” - Detroit, Washington, DC, Los Angeles, and America’s ultimate pool of urban cess, New Orleans.
Correct. They moved. They didn't commute. And the freight lines followed them.
The only reason they didn't start to commute on the canal was because someone built high-speed rail. THAT was when it became easier for people to travel back and forth across the mountains on business.
The Box Tops ain’t got time to take a fast train.
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