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Fresno men who tattooed boy not guilty of mayhem (Bulldog gang members)
The Fresno Bee ^ | 7 June 2010 | Pablo Lopez

Posted on 06/07/2010 2:16:35 PM PDT by Enterprise

"A jury this morning found two Fresno Bulldog gang members not guilty of aggravated mayhem for inking a gang tattoo on a 7-year-old boy during Easter break 2009."

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: battery; bulldog; mayhem; tattoos
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Here's the basics.

The two men were accused of holding the boy down, and giving him a bulldog tattoo against his will. They were on trial for aggravated mayhem, and had they been found guilty, they would have been given a life sentence.

The testimony of the little boy was that he did not want the tattoo.

The two men said that the boy wanted the tattoo, and the father said the boy begged him for the tattoo, and he said he loved his son and would never deliberately hurt him.

The Bulldogs are located in different areas. I can't remember all the gang names, but there are the Park side Bulldogs, East side Bulldogs, and others. They engage in the usual: murder, robbery, drugs, vehicle thefts, residential burglaries, and occasional rapes.

1 posted on 06/07/2010 2:16:36 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

Even if the kid ‘begged’ for the tattoo, 7 isn’t old enough to make that kind of decision.


2 posted on 06/07/2010 2:20:30 PM PDT by Lobsterback
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To: Enterprise

What in the world are the particulars for “aggravated mayhem”?


3 posted on 06/07/2010 2:21:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Be nice to venomous snakes. They only want to eat a mouse!)
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To: Enterprise

“and the father said the boy begged him for the tattoo”

Kids need parents, not “cool big friends”.


4 posted on 06/07/2010 2:24:13 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Tax-chick

do you give the thugs a life sentence for a tattoo that the 7 year old probably asked for then changed his mind after he found out it wasn’t a lick and stick tattoo...

mitigating circumstances, but still wrong... however, not life sentencing... this is the problem with zero tolerance and mandatory sentencing... they should do time...

t


5 posted on 06/07/2010 2:24:39 PM PDT by teeman8r (NO vember is coming... vote them out)
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To: Enterprise
sounds like the (female body parts) of the Californication Legal System are afraid of the big bad gang....

we need to take back this land...and the dirt and filth of society needs to be unceremoniously dumped.

6 posted on 06/07/2010 2:26:37 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: teeman8r
do you give the thugs a life sentence for a tattoo that the 7 year old probably asked for then changed his mind after he found out it wasn’t a lick and stick tattoo

I'd be fine for letting these two thugs sit in jail only until the tatoo is no longer visible.
7 posted on 06/07/2010 2:29:39 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Lobsterback

Agreed. No one under the age of 18 should be able to get a tattoo without the permission of a parent or guardian, and no one should force them to get one.


8 posted on 06/07/2010 2:32:55 PM PDT by Enterprise (So tell me libs, if there had been blow out at ANWR, could it ever have matched BP's?)
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To: Enterprise

As if life isn’t hard enough, without branding “Loser” on a kid before he has a fair shot at life.

Putting Daddy behind bars for life would possibly be the best thing that could possibly happen to this kid. As-is; he doesn’t have a chance, I wonder how many innocents this predator is going to beat, maim and rob, before he winds up behind bars .... just like Dear Old Dad.


9 posted on 06/07/2010 2:36:08 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: teeman8r

Whatcha going after me for? I just asked a legal question.


10 posted on 06/07/2010 2:41:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Be nice to venomous snakes. They only want to eat a mouse!)
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To: Enterprise

gang members on the jury I bet


11 posted on 06/07/2010 2:41:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Tax-chick; teeman8r; Vaquero
This is PC 205 regarding aggravated mayhem:

PC 205. A person is guilty of aggravated mayhem when he or she unlawfully, under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the physical or psychological well-being of another person, intentionally causes permanent disability or disfigurement of another human being or deprives a human being of a limb, organ, or member of his or her body. For purposes of this section, it is not necessary to prove an intent to kill. Aggravated mayhem is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for life with the possibility of parole

My understanding of aggravated mayhem is that is a very violent crime. An example would be slicing someones ear off, or severing a limb. That being said, it appears that the DA used the words "unlawfully, under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the physical or psychological well-being of another person, intentionally causes permanent disability or disfigurement" to charge the men with this section.

They may have filed the charges so heavily because of the gang membership and/or possible past criminal felony convictions. Regardless, I suspect that the jury did not want to send them to prison for a life sentence for the tattoo. Just a guess though.

12 posted on 06/07/2010 2:43:07 PM PDT by Enterprise (So tell me libs, if there had been blow out at ANWR, could it ever have matched BP's?)
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To: Hodar

Upon first hearing of this case, that was exactly what I was thinking. The kid has a tattoo used by a very violent gang. No decent father would do that to his kid. I too suspect that this will not be the last we hear about the kid’s father.


13 posted on 06/07/2010 2:45:31 PM PDT by Enterprise (So tell me libs, if there had been blow out at ANWR, could it ever have matched BP's?)
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To: GeronL

Seriously, I really doubt that there were gang members on the jury. :)


14 posted on 06/07/2010 2:47:31 PM PDT by Enterprise (So tell me libs, if there had been blow out at ANWR, could it ever have matched BP's?)
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To: rigelkentaurus

That’s uncomfortably close to common sense. It would never fly in liberal la-la land...


15 posted on 06/07/2010 2:53:34 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Enterprise

I don’t doubt anything anymore.


16 posted on 06/07/2010 2:55:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Enterprise

And Fresno has 26 murders this year to date (last year, at the same time there were 13 murders). Gangs are out of control.


17 posted on 06/07/2010 3:22:33 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: Enterprise

“Not guilty” sends the wrong message entirely.
These thugs should have been punished severely. Informal authority must not fly here; we need the rule of law to speake more loudly than ever.
These men should have been convicted and punished severely.
The testimony is clear as a bell.


18 posted on 06/07/2010 3:23:00 PM PDT by cephalopod1
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To: cephalopod1

Sounds like the jury blamed only the father, who wasn’t on trial.


19 posted on 06/07/2010 3:30:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: kiltie65

And Fresno has 26 murders this year to date (last year, at the same time there were 13 murders). Gangs are out of control.”

To think that Fresno used to be a nice quiet agricultural town.

Disgusting.

No wonder over 500,000 WORKING PRODUCTIVE citizens left California for other states last year.


20 posted on 06/07/2010 3:44:11 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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