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China Creates Pirate Copy of Russia’s Su-33 Fighter Jet
Market Oracle ^ | 6/5/2010 | Market Oracle

Posted on 06/05/2010 8:18:55 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

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To: sonofstrangelove
You missed the next part. The Russians not only quickly reverse engineered those B-29s but improved on them. Stalin wanted exact copies so had all of the scientists/engineers executed for not doing the exact copies.

Flash forward a few years to their atomic bomb program. The Russian scientists had photos and plans of ours, many from the Rosenburgs. Being well aware of what happened to the B-29 group they even copied the "Made In The USA" labels on their bomb even though it had no effect on it's operation. Stalin was pleased.

21 posted on 06/06/2010 12:03:23 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Thank for filling in the gap.

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22 posted on 06/06/2010 12:04:19 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

The General H.H. Arnold Special was disassembled at the Central Aerodrome in Moscow. Ding How was grounded as a reference aircraft and Ramp Tramp remained flyable. Ramp Tramp’s engines were replaced with ASh-73TK’s to make the aircraft more maintainable and it remained in-service for nine years.


23 posted on 06/06/2010 12:15:05 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: Cacique
However, I was speaking more in the context of nations. The reality is that practically every major innovation in technology in the last 50 years has been developed in one country and one country only.

In a broad sense, I agree that most of the innovation has been developed in the US since WWII. However, the further development by other countries is still valueable and not a trivial contribution. One only has to look at the depth of technology that goes into producing a marketable consumer based Camcorder. The base and crude technology was developed in the US. But it was the Japanese that further refined it to what it is today

And same with computer programs like France's Dassualts CATIA program. Sure, the basic idea of a computer based engineering and design software may have been developed first in the US, but Dassualt made what CATIA is today; a highly sophisticated program used broadly by both the auto and aerospace industry across the world.

Many of the developed countries today, when combined all together, in recent years, likely produced more patents than the US, even if the patents are for products where the original idea came from the US. A modern mass produced automobile easily attributes its design to 99% of the patents filed since Henry Ford's Model T. So, while the US invented the mass produced auto, since then, many countries from Japan to Germany, etc. piled on legitimate designs to make modern autos what it is today.

I'm not trying to take away the strength of the US in the original idea, but to trivialize the contribution of the rest of the world isn't an accurate perspectivie either.

24 posted on 06/06/2010 2:14:22 PM PDT by ponder life
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I am not trying to trivialize it. All I am saying is that the refinement of technology has been left to others for a variety of reasons having a great deal to do with economics. Cost of manufacturing etc. The US is till the leader in basic software engineering. The basic design of the electronics in laptops and desktops is still produced here and refined in Taiwan. The Italians are great at packaging and exterior design, but since Da Vinci and Galileo what have they contributed? We may well lose the leadership in these areas because of the policies of the left in trying to achieve a “fair” world. Without the United States and what makes this country unique as the engine of technology and innovation we will be thrown into technological dark ages in which innovation and invention will slow to a crawl with hardly any developments.

The oriental;s are hampered by a pictographic language and learning by rote. Stifling cultures that prize conformity stifle individual incentive and creativeness. The United States is unique in that a segment of the population still remains individualist. Socialist collectivism both in europe and as it is evolving here strives for conformity and suppression of dissidence. It is a formula for neutering the American uniqueness that allowed for individual uniqueness.


25 posted on 06/06/2010 2:49:03 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: garyhope

The irony is that once socialists destroy the last capitalist bastion in the world where all that innovation takes place they will have nobody else to copy from.


26 posted on 06/06/2010 3:19:32 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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