Posted on 06/03/2010 4:21:47 AM PDT by stan_sipple
About 100 people gathered Wednesday night to hear three panelists discuss racism and immigration law issues, with one panelist comparing a new Arizona law to the Jim Crow laws of the past.
The panel, called "Brown Person, Show Me Your Papers," included S.A. Mora James, a Latina civil rights attorney; Norman Pflanz, an attorney for the Nebraska Appleseed Center for Law in the Public Interest; and Paul Olson, a University of Nebraska-Lincoln professor and president of Nebraskans for Peace.
James compared the stringent law in Arizona to the Jim Crow laws used against blacks. The Arizona law would make the failure to carry immigration documents a crime and give the police broad power to detain anyone suspected of being in the country illegally.
"Now it's Juan Crow laws," James said. "We need reform, not subjugation.
"I should not have to show any documents to anyone for just walking down the street. This is not Nazi Germany."
She said the Arizona law's clear purpose is to segregate and intimidate Latinos.
Pflanz provided a timeline and information about a Fremont ordinance being voted on June 21.
The controversial proposed ordinance prohibits harboring, renting to or hiring illegal immigrants.
Pflanz said many communities the size of Fremont who have passed similar legislation have racked up huge legal fees upwards of $3 million.
"It's divisive and costly to these communities," Pflanz said of the laws. "It sets up fear."
Olson criticized the Federation American Immigration Reform group, which was behind the wording of the Arizona law.
FAIR recently was designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit civil rights organization.
The Nebraskans for Peace president also discussed how the Arizona legislation may affect Nebraska.
He said he sees the Fremont vote as setting a precedent for the state.
"If we lose Fremont, we lose the state," Olson told the crowd. "But if we win or are close, we have a good chance of winning the state."
Olson encouraged those in audience at the Lincoln Unitarian Church, 63rd and A streets, many of whom included members of Nebraskans for Peace and the Unitarian Church, to contact state senators and voice their opinions about immigration laws.
He said he's confident that a bill similar to Arizona's proposed by Nebraska state Sen. Charlie Janssen of Fremont won't get out of committee in the Nebraska Statehouse.
But Olson said he wants to be sure there aren't 30 senators supporting the bill in order to pull it out of committee.
"I'm optimistic about stopping this," Olson said.
Oh! ‘Nebraskans For Peace’ - does that ever read like a communist front group.
Fremont is my home town. The last time this was brought up, various activists were bused in to protest. The local cops honestly thought there was going to be a riot.
Hormel is a big employer in town, and they put the pressure on the city council. That and the Catholic bishops in the area raised all kinds of heck. Even the police chief said he didn’t want to enforce the law if it passed. To much money is for cheap labor.
Still have friends in the area, and I am surprised this came up again. Will have to call my buddy tonight.
Some of us here call them "Nebraskans For Appeasement."
Look at the rest of them, all Commie sounding names.
The panel, called "Brown Person, Show Me Your Papers," included S.A. Mora James, a Latina civil rights attorney; Norman Pflanz, an attorney for the Nebraska Appleseed Center for Law in the Public Interest; and Paul Olson, a University of Nebraska-Lincoln professor and president of Nebraskans for Peace.
Nebraskans for peace are all marxist college professors public employees and general failures
Yawn. About? Yeah right....
These reconquista commies cry about profiling ! Well I’m PO’d that I have to show my “papers” just to get a job
Appleseed is a Soros group. They were the ones who managed the rent-a-mobs a few years ago when they had the Day Without a Mexican protest. My neighbor girl kept referring to “they” - “they gave us Mexican, Guatemalan, etc flags and told us to fly them”, “they said to meet here and do this”, “they’re gonna bus us to Lincoln and Omaha”, etc. Turns out this is the Appleseed group, operating with Soros money - coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
The Appleseed group was behind the rent-a-mob in Fremont. They boasted about it on their website right around the same time as the “Day Without a Mexican”.
Shortly before the 2008 election there was an article in my hometown newspaper about a meeting between the Appleseed rep and some local people, including representatives from the school.
About a month ago there was a front-page “article” basically advertising that if illegals wanted to flee that terrible Arizona they should come here because our school is full of immigration activists who will take the entire family in with open arms and ply them with government services and taxpayer-funded aid.
What really upsets me is the role of the Catholic Church in all this. How can a church encourage lawlessness? Because that’s what this is. If the Catholic Church wants to help Latinos they could work to help them be able to immigrate legally or they could give aid to them in their countries of origin. But to lobby the government to not enforce its immigration laws is the encouragement of lawlessness. It’s aligning with the anti-Christ forces in the world which want nothing but anarchy. I can’t believe that the RC Church is so short-sighted.
“Juan Crow”? And no black person stands up and screams:”No, it isn’t”. Have they forgotten already the back of the bus, the lynchings, the water cannons - all courtesy of the Democratic Party. You know, that political party that has done sooooo much to (oops, For, I mean For) back people?
Every ethnic immigration has faced segregation - the “Irish need not apply” signs, the names - Wap, Kraut, Pollack, etc - while these illegals get jobs, free education, free health care, food stamps, etc.
Americans have become stupid to allow this to continue. And this puta needs yo either in jail or kicked across the Rio Grande.
This is MY country and I want it back.
I think we should enlighten Mora James on what the Arizona Law really says: SA@morajameslaw.com.
How old were those young people?
The churches, especially the R C Church because of its size and geographical dispersion, have been infiltrated by the Communists just as our schools, media, entertainment industry, etc, have. The Communists have been at this for more than 100 years and they do it slowly and in harmless looking increments.
Actually, churches and Communism/socialism have much in common except for the force afforded the state. Each claims the same goals socially.
The big difference is that the Church teaches love and gives God credit and the state lies its butt off and uses force to affect its will while the state, or the party in power, claims the credit. When most of us give to our church, or to other church-sponsored efforts to help people, we feel good about ourselves. How many feel good about their money being confiscated in taxes and the Democrat Party getting credit for it?
My neighbor at that time was probably about 5th grade.
Excellent observations about the churches. It’s what Nancy Pelosi doesn’t understand: If I choose to give my money to the poor it’s called love. If she choosed to give my money to the poor it’s called stealing.
Christianity, Islam, and atheism have all had the same results when political and religious power was all consolidated. I think that’s because man is fallen and prone to corruption. The worldview of the Founding Fathers took the sinner-saint duality seriously by stressing the need for separation/balance of powers, the checks and balances, and the guarantees of individual rights not to be infringed by government. Whether it’s the pope, the czar/Fuehrer, or the imam, somebody claiming all civil power to control other people in the name of God is a dangerous thing. Every tyrant claims to do it for the overall good of the society.
What’s sad is that most people are on religious auto-pilot. They do what they’re told and don’t think too much about it. That’s how forces totally opposed to the Bible can overrun and take over whole denominations without anybody within it seeming to even notice. The Bible (Revelation) seems to say that eventually the churches will be agents serving Satan.
And I say that as the wife of a Missouri-Synod Lutheran pastor. I love the Church (capital C). Unfortunately, not everything that calls itself a church is the Church. The closer we get to the end, the more the churches will be agents of Satan and the invisible, truly Christian Church will be underground. At least that’s what I believe the Bible says.
When I saw Tony Campolo heading up Obama’s campaign, to try to convince Christian pro-lifers that electing a guy who believes it too burdensome on women to enforce anti-infanticide laws, I knew we were heading into very, very rocky times. So here we are.
There are others flying under a false flag. The obvious ones are Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Fr Jeffery Pheiger, that whacked out family who protest at veterans funerals, all churches who teach Black Liberation Theology, and many more. I strongly suspect that much of the sexual abuse in the Catholic Church is committed by infiltrators to discredit the church. I know that is not true of them all but I think it is of a lot of them.
We know the line has been crossed (from religion to government) when certain actions are demanded of us rather than just imploring us toward that behavior and when punishment is administered by man rather than by God in the Hereafter.
Since most laws are based on Biblical morality it is easy for my above statements to be misconstrued but I doubt you will.
I agree.
The basic foundation of our Declaration of Independence was the inalienable rights - endowed by the Creator. That’s why murder is not OK. But today we’ve got a Roman Catholic Speaker of the House who would allow us to kill any pre-born child any way we wanted to, but would fine us for not having health insurance.
Bizarre. I think I’m still hoping I’ll wake up and find out it’s all been a bad dream.
You will not wake up and find it is a bad dream. It is bad but it is not a dream.
Another hypocrisy of the left is to support a “woman’s right to choose” to murder her unborn child but refuses to allow capital punishment for those who wantonly murder the innocent.
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