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12 dead in U.K. shooting rampage
MSNBC.com ^ | 06/02/2010 | Staff

Posted on 06/02/2010 9:37:13 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

LONDON - British police said the death toll from a shooting spree in northwest England earlier on Wednesday had risen to 12.

A taxi driver described as quiet but friendly went on a shooting spree across a picturesque rural area before apparently turning the gun on himself, police said.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; rampage; shooting; uk
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To: stuartcr

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161 posted on 06/03/2010 7:43:11 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

I know, it was an apparently failed attempt at facetiousness.


162 posted on 06/03/2010 7:47:32 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: darkside321
But i´m not shure because i have not read any details about the weapon right now in the news...

It was a shotgun. But that didn't stop NBC's Brian Williams from saying "randomly spraying bullets" on the news last night.

163 posted on 06/03/2010 7:57:53 AM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: gundog

Apparently two weapons have been recovered, a shotgun and some kind of sniper rifle. Certainly something with a very big telescopic sight anyway.


164 posted on 06/03/2010 8:02:48 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Cumbria Shootings ‘Prove Gun Laws Need A Shake-Up’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526935/posts

Ahem. You were saying?


165 posted on 06/03/2010 9:12:06 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Looks like that fabulous gun ban worked out pretty good...

For the shooter...


166 posted on 06/03/2010 6:09:46 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64

You get your act together before trying to take the piss.

In the last year for which information is available 2008/9, the number of deaths in England and Wales due to firearms was 38 - thirty eight. The figure for deaths in USA with a population roughly about 6 times is tens of Thousands.

http://tna.europarchive.org/20100413151426/homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs09/hosb1109chap3.pdf

see page 9.


167 posted on 06/04/2010 12:21:06 AM PDT by Cadno
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To: Little Ray
err...I was saying exactly that.

In your quote, one person has called for the law to be tightened. And as I wrote, "there will be pressure from some quarters to do that".

However, as I also stated, the government atm has no plans to change the law, and the indications are that they won't.

168 posted on 06/04/2010 12:49:11 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Cadno

You get your act together before trying to take the piss.


And this means what, exactly???

Maybe I should have added a “/sarcasm” tag to my comment, but I figured my previous statement was rather obvious...And not directed at anyone on this website in particular...


169 posted on 06/04/2010 1:14:04 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64

It’s directed to you as you were the last poster in a long line of posters ‘taking the piss’ about what had happened in the UK - the phrase means “to mock” - look the phrase up on the internet and you’ll see that it is british slang.

The point is that, apart from rare occassions such as what happened in Cumbria, our gun laws are good laws. If you follow the link I provided, then you will see that in 2008/9 there were 38 homicides due to firearm offences in England & Wales. A remarkably low number compared with the figure in the USA. So if you doubt the efficacy of British legislation then you provide an alternative and if possible a persuasive explanation for the disparity per head of population.

BTW I’m not advocating gun control in the USA, the sitation on the ground is completly different from the UK - what works for us will not work for you. It looks like you will just have to live (or for thousands of Americans per year, die)with it.


170 posted on 06/04/2010 3:49:37 AM PDT by Cadno
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