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White House 'deeply regrets' loss of life on Gaza flotilla
Haaretz ^

Posted on 05/31/2010 5:25:21 AM PDT by darkside321

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To: Dallas59

http://muqata.blogspot.com/2010/05/anti-shalit-flotilla-updates.html

Vids


41 posted on 05/31/2010 6:09:41 AM PDT by GulfWar1Vet
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To: Gen.Blather
If Turkey ups the ante with warships and planes, as they most certainly will, then Israel should and must sink the entire flotilla.

I doubt that Turkey would send in its navy but if it were then Israel would be vastly outclassed at sea. According to Haze Gray and Underway the naval matchup is:

Turkey: 20 frigates, 3 corvettes, 16 submarines, 46 patrol boats

Israel: 4 corvettes, 10 patrol boats, 3 submarines

Israel's strength is in its army and air force, not its navy.

42 posted on 05/31/2010 6:10:52 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: atomic conspiracy; conservatism_IS_compassion

Major enemy media offensive underway. You might want to weigh in.


43 posted on 05/31/2010 6:10:57 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: darkside321

FUbo FUun!

LLS


44 posted on 05/31/2010 6:27:13 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Petrosius

However, while Turkey only houses some old nuclear weapons on NATO bases it doesn’t actually possess it’s own nuclear weapons program.
I’m pretty sure Israel has them beat in that area.


45 posted on 05/31/2010 6:27:25 AM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: darkside321

a harsh diplomatic response....................lol


46 posted on 05/31/2010 6:30:28 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: brent13a

However, while Turkey only houses some old nuclear weapons on NATO bases it doesn’t actually possess it’s own nuclear weapons program.
I’m pretty sure Israel has them beat in that area.


So? If they would attack turkey they would be at war with NATO.


47 posted on 05/31/2010 6:31:04 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: darkside321

I deeply regret the White House, so we’re even.


48 posted on 05/31/2010 6:32:52 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: darkside321

True, my supposition is if Israel attacked any muslim country they would need to attack all of their enemies (most of the middle east). It would most definitely be M.A.D.


49 posted on 05/31/2010 6:35:41 AM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: Republic of Texas

It’s nice to see a country protects its borders. American Jews, this POS (President of the States) in the WH has neither your interests as Americans in this matter, nor the interests of the majority of the CITIZENS of the United States’ interests at heart in his antisemetic drive for islamic dominion over the middle East.


50 posted on 05/31/2010 6:40:47 AM PDT by yorkie01
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To: darkside321
Video of IDF soldiers unloading "humanitarian" shipping containers which (hold onto your hats I hope you're sitting down) contains weapons, rockets, mortars, etc.
51 posted on 05/31/2010 6:40:50 AM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: darkside321

Turkey attacked Greece circ 1978. Both members. Not that it matters, but Turkey would be the aggressor. No, I don’t want to see the US attacking Israel, but I do think that would hassen Obambi’s exit. Also, thanks to Jimmy Carter, our navy is vulnerable to balistic nuclear weapons. The Agis cruisers were designed to protect against that, but Jimmy decided that capacity would be provocative so the cruisers were added to the fleet without anti-ICBM capability. I don’t know if that was ever corrected. But, since then our navy has simply been a floating target for any ICBM armed country.


52 posted on 05/31/2010 6:41:57 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Travis McGee

re. mini-torpedoes.

Brilliant! Man, I’d hire you for the planning team on any problem there is!


53 posted on 05/31/2010 6:44:36 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: brent13a

Yes, but as the many conflicts during the Cold War show, nuclear weapons do not count for much in a low level conflict. Again, I doubt that Turkey would send in the navy but if were does Israel really want to confront them? As strong as Israel is it position is still precarious and they really do not need any new enemies. It would be in Israel’s best interest to mollify Turkey before this gets out of hand.


54 posted on 05/31/2010 6:45:54 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Dallas59
Would the IDF go in without cameras? I wonder if vid was shot while they boarded?

I would bet dollars to donuts they have video of the incident as well as satellite / drone surveillance

But you really think that documentation matters to the vast majority of Israel critics?

55 posted on 05/31/2010 6:46:22 AM PDT by Popman (Balsa wood: Obama Presidential timber)
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To: darkside321
The White House on Monday said it "deeply regretted" the loss of life and injuries sustained in the clashes

I want to know who it is in the White House that is issuing these edicts. It is obvious that the vacationing Obama knows nothing about them.

56 posted on 05/31/2010 6:48:07 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Gen.Blather

And best of all, they are already in the inventories of every navy for use as decoys and other purposes. Only the homing method (acoustic to propellers) and payload would be changed, so they could be modified and put into service as ship disablers very quickly.


57 posted on 05/31/2010 6:52:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: brent13a

I’ll take this video at face value. Of course they were trying to arm Gaza.

The fact that Israel didn’t kill the whole lot of them shows great restraint.


58 posted on 05/31/2010 7:01:48 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Petrosius
Israel's strength is in its army and air force, not its navy.

Israeli warplanes can and will sink Turkish warships if the Turks are so stupid.

59 posted on 05/31/2010 7:04:59 AM PDT by behzinlea
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United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called for a full investigation and expressed shock at Israel's storming of the flotilla.

Oh, Bull! He's a liar.

The Israelis have been saying for days that they would maintain the blockade, and in light of the "flotilla" that was headed their way, they even invited it to port at Ashkod on the Israeli coast ffor inspection.

The Secretary-General knew this damn well. He also knew the Israelis would not back down. So, now he is shocked?

Why wasn't he shocked when the flotilla departed despite the Israeli protests and the leaders of said flotilla said they would run the blockade?

None of this happened in a vacuum. The Secretary-General and the United Nations are going to go to war with Israel.

Bible predictions from Zechariah are going to come true.* All this is happening before our eyes.

Of course, given the hatred arrayed against them and the frevent Islamic wish to kill all the Jews, the Israelis can't back down without losing their country and lives, and they know it, and the Sec-Gen knows it. He's really fanning the flames now, probably due to the heavy infestation of Fundy Islamists running so many countries nowadays and the temptation of petro-dollars.

I'm shocked at what a blatant liar he is.





*Zechariah, 12:2 behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of reeling unto all the peoples round about, and upon Judah also shall it be in the siege against Jerusalem. 12:3 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all the peoples; all that burden themselves with it shall be sore wounded; and all the nations of the earth shall be gathered together against it.

60 posted on 05/31/2010 7:09:14 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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