Posted on 05/30/2010 10:15:21 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
HAIFA, Israel - Israeli Navy commandos attacked at least one of the six ships carrying pro-Palestinian activists and aid for blockaded Gaza, killing 10 and wounding several dozen on board, according to an Israeli TV network and a lawyer for the activists' group.
Channel 10 said the final death toll could be higher as Navy commandos who boarded the convoy were still conducting searches and encountering often violent resistance from pro-Palestinian activists. Responding to accusations that Israeli commandos assaulted the ships guns blazing, Israel's Army Radio later said that passengers had tried to grab weapons away from soldiers boarding the flotilla.
The al-Jazeera satellite channel reported by telephone from the Turkish ship leading the flotilla that Israeli Navy forces fired at the ship and boarded it, wounding the captain.
The Turkish NTV network also reported an Israeli takeover with gunfire, and that at least 30 activists were wounded.
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Despite 4 US investigations and radio intercepts released, some people demand to see Israeli crimes. It’s downright pathetic.
What else would they say when they killed 10 innocent unarmed people. They are murderers. Israel is going to have a tough time spinning their way out of this atrocity. The world is lining up against them.
Civilian deaths benefit Hamas and the left, not Israel. Israel could have sunk the ships, instead it tried to board them with a minimum of casualties. If you watched the videos, you would see the Jihadis, communists and anarchists attacking the Israelis. At some point, when shot at and hit with pipes, the Israelis responded to deadly violence with extreme restraint. The Jihadi-left alliance created an incident and idiots fell for it. If the world repudiated the technique, it would not be used. Thus as a useful idiot promoting their agitprop, blood is on your hands.
Your evidence is a "mentor" that the US once considered an ally and may have been one of the founders of Hamas. The man is dead in the grave 20 years and has no involvement in the Israeli - Palestinian conflict. Basically your evidence is nonsense.
Civilian deaths benefit Hamas and the left, not Israel. Israel could have sunk the ships, instead it tried to board them with a minimum of casualties. If you watched the videos, you would see the Jihadis, communists and anarchists attacking the Israelis. At some point, when shot at and hit with pipes, the Israelis responded to deadly violence with extreme restraint.
It comes down to who are you going to believe. The unarmed peace activists carrying humanitarian aid or Israeli commandos that boarded a ship and murdered 10 innocent people.
Meanwhile, who knows what among our various law enforcement and spy agencies and isn’t exposing the enemies within and their treasonous plot(s) that they know about?
It comes down to who are you going to believe. The unarmed peace activists carrying humanitarian aid or Israeli commandos that boarded a ship and murdered 10 innocent people.
The tapes are clear. People hitting soldiers with pipes are anything but "unarmed peace activists".
More than we will ever know.
Israel was in the right.
67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:
(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture;
(b) engage in belligerent acts on behalf of the enemy;
(c) act as auxiliaries to the enemy s armed forces;
(d) are incorporated into or assist the enemy s intelligence system;
(e) sail under convoy of enemy warships or military aircraft; or
(f) otherwise make an effective contribution to the enemy s military action, e.g., by carrying military materials, and it is not feasible for the attacking forces to first place passengers and crew in a place of safety. Unless circumstances do not permit, they are to be given a warning, so that they can re-route, off-load, or take other precautions.
More here:
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/385ec082b509e76c41256739003e636d/7694fe2016f347e1c125641f002d49ce
Israel intercepted the floatilla, gave sufficent warning to turn back, and then took action. I wouldn’t call it an attack, because there ususally isn’t forewarning with in an attack.
You gave nothing but idle speculation. You offer nothing but propaganda.
The tapes are clear. People hitting soldiers with pipes are anything but "unarmed peace activists".
The "peace" activists were making an attempt to defend themselves in international waters. They claim that the Israeli commandos shot at them first. The flotilla was obviously not carrying any weapons, otherwise they wouldn't have tried to defend themselves with sticks and deck chairs.
The political fallout is just starting. The Israelis never miss a chance to make themselves out to be the bullies. They found nothing and they will pay for it a thousand times over in bad publicity.
The "peace" activists were making an attempt to defend themselves in international waters. They claim that the Israeli commandos shot at them first. The flotilla was obviously not carrying any weapons, otherwise they wouldn't have tried to defend themselves with sticks and deck chairs.
Videos are fun. Knives and at least one gun, the later seen on Turkish TV from their own live feed.
The political fallout is just starting. The Israelis never miss a chance to make themselves out to be the bullies. They found nothing and they will pay for it a thousand times over in bad publicity.
Turkish Islamists and assorted communists wanted to break the blockade, not help the Arabs. They could have given the supplies to the UN. Instead the single Turkish Islamist ship was full of people who chose to attack the Israelis who came, first using paint-ball guns. Only after 70% injuries, including one thrown overboard, did the Israelis respond with lethal force.
You lose.
In the short term, think IMF... For the long term think Revelation 13:17!
Turkish Islamists and assorted communists wanted to break the blockade, not help the Arabs.
Breaking the blockade helps the Arabs. So you are wrong.
They could have given the supplies to the UN. Instead the single Turkish Islamist ship was full of people who chose to attack the Israelis who came, first using paint-ball guns. Only after 70% injuries, including one thrown overboard, did the Israelis respond with lethal force.
Commandos with paint-ball guns? Do you really believe this nonsense? What kind of "paint balls" were they shooting? Anybody with any common sense knows better. The Israeli commandos were decked out in military gear and prepared to take control of the ship. Either through poor training or just plain stupidity they committed a massacre. International condemnation is just the beginning.
I would also like to warn all conservatives about Bibi Netanyahu. Anything that comes from Bibi Netanyahu's mouth should be considered suspect. US conservatives that place any trust in him are fooling themselves. Remember, this is the man that tried to twist Bill Clinton's arm to release an American traitor. Bubba turned the tables on him. One of the very few moments when I was actually proud of Bubba.
Breaking the blockade helps the Arabs. So you are wrong.
If by "helping" you mean it would allo Hamas to rearm, ensuring anoth war and thousands of dead Arabs? Then yes. And gien taht the Muslims like their martyrs and they are promised 72 virgins, I suppose it is helping them. Humanitarian, it is not.
Commandos with paint-ball guns? Do you really believe this nonsense? What kind of "paint balls" were they shooting? Anybody with any common sense knows better.
Obviously you have refused to watch the vidoes lest they interfere with you prejudgment.
e Israeli commandos were decked out in military gear and prepared to take control of the ship. Either through poor training or just plain stupidity they committed a massacre. International condemnation is just the beginning.
9 dead Jihadis and communists after 7 Israeli soldiers are injured is no massacre. You either have no concept of proportion, or care not for the meaning of words in condemning Israel.
I would also like to warn all conservatives about Bibi Netanyahu. Anything that comes from Bibi Netanyahu's mouth should be considered suspect. US conservatives that place any trust in him are fooling themselves. Remember, this is the man that tried to twist Bill Clinton's arm to release an American traitor. Bubba turned the tables on him. One of the very few moments when I was actually proud of Bubba.
Pollard should rot in jail. But doesn't the US try to free our captures spies? Seeems to me you have some bias against Israel. I guess you like the CIA arming and training Fatah and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.
Grab popcorn and read the thread.
Grand Wazoo:
Pat, how’s your latest book coming? You were hilarious on the McLaughlin Group! Are Ron and Lyndon there with you? Does Ron take you all up in the blimp?
I used to lurk there every once in a while and was amazed at how clinically insane many of the posters were. Apocalyptic fantasies about murdering everyone in particular countries.
Are you sure? You sound an awful lot like him. I also notice that on some of the older Free Republic threads you and your little group of fanatics refer to Liberty Post and talk about posting there.
Anyways, if you are the same Yehuda, your posts are exactly what I expect. You try to label anyone that doesn't buy all of the Israeli propaganda as anti-semitic. I guess when your arguments don't pass the smell test, you have to try and smear everyone to deflect the argument. Otherwise people would realize that people like you are trying to drag the US deeper into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
You mean as opposed to YOUR fantasy about Israel getting on their knees / ending the blockade, and allowing Hamas to import tens of thousands of new rockets to launch at Jewish women and children.
Not murdering innocent, unarmed, civilians (one an American) in international waters is not getting on your knees. Atrocities like this and bluster from keyboard commandos like you who wish to kill everyone that disagrees with them is why Israel receives international condemnation.
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