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1 year after officer tackled him, man is bedridden, wife is caretaker
Seattle Times ^ | 16 May 10 | Sara Jean Green

Posted on 05/29/2010 10:19:58 AM PDT by Drew68

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To: GreenStreak
They were more concerned about his injury than collecting evidence.

They were? Look at the video again! While he's lying unconcious, the one cop holds the kid in a straight arm lock which is used to immobilize a prone suspect then they roll him over one way then back and again use the straightarm hold.......while he's still unconscious.........At that point in time they were not concerned about any injury. Look at 1:29 of the video again when they grab his arm and pull him back onto his back. Yea, that's certainly great technique on how to examine an unconscious individual who may have just sustained a severe neck or brain injury.........

361 posted on 05/31/2010 2:07:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: GreenStreak
You might enjoy this thread. They are blaming the 16 year old that got beat up

No we aren't, YOU are dude........

362 posted on 05/31/2010 2:11:11 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: EAGLE7
(YES DRUGS) in the video.

If drugs then what happened to the charges against the kid? You've been called to task on this bogus allegation of yours several times already.............

363 posted on 05/31/2010 2:14:04 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: Moonman62
I don’t want any part of this. In fact, you should ask the moderator to remove it.

I agree with you, this thread should have been deleted long ago.......sorry it took me 330 posts to get here...........I just hit the abuse button requesting it be deleted. We shall see.......

364 posted on 05/31/2010 2:54:09 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: GreenStreak
He's a criminal? What crime?
365 posted on 05/31/2010 2:57:43 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: EAGLE7
Gosh, I thought being American means giving the benefit of the doubt: guilty and proven innocent and all that tripe.

Thank God we are moving to the Mexican system where cops decide who is guilty and there is no reason to ever question them.

366 posted on 05/31/2010 3:04:16 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I agree with you, this thread should have been deleted long ago.......sorry it took me 330 posts to get here...........I just hit the abuse button requesting it be deleted. We shall see.......

I totally disagree.

This thread is wonderful example of the chasm that separates conservatives when it comes to "law enforcement". The vast majority of us understand that the police have too much power and wield it in ways that limit everyone's freedoms. The minority think the cops can do no wrong and if a few people get hurt or killed, "oh well, at least we're safe".

367 posted on 05/31/2010 3:26:23 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo
chasm that separates conservatives when it comes to "law enforcement".

There's no "chasm" as you claim, this is merely a conflicting interpretation of a video posted at a news site..........

While I opposed the actions of the cops in this video, I fully supported the actions of a no knock raid here in Detroit that occured a couple weeks ago that resulted in an innocent child being killed......

Much of the information in that case was omitted, such as the fact that the grandmother locked the door to her house at the request of her attorney Geoffrey Fieger, which required the Michigan State Police who were assigned the task of investigation, to enlist the aid of a locksmith rather than knock in the door.

And what was also omitted was the discovery of two stolen vehicles located in the backyard of that house......

The arguments and attacks were just as prevalent on that thread as they are on this one..........

368 posted on 05/31/2010 4:03:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: starlifter

“Thank God we are moving to the Mexican system where cops decide who is guilty and there is no reason to ever question them.”

I missed the part in the video where the cop declared him guilty. He was trying to apprehend a fleeing suspect.


369 posted on 05/31/2010 5:19:16 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: grand wazoo

“...the chasm that separates conservatives when it comes to “law enforcement”. The vast majority of us understand that the police have too much power...”

Really? Most conservatives support Law Enforcement. It is the liberals who mostly bash Police and a MINORITY of conservatives that do so.


370 posted on 05/31/2010 5:22:24 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Psalm 144

Again your comments and others here are so blatantly(is that a better word?) anti-cop. You are the ones who have rushed to judgment and would not even be allowed within 1000 feet of a court room if a cop were on trial there.

Sorry, can’t think of any more ‘forceful’ words, so don’t post back.


371 posted on 05/31/2010 5:31:48 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Psalm 144

“Your train of logic derails and jumps track all the time, but you are consistent with the capitals when referring to authority, or ‘Authority’, as you might put it.

Very odd.”

Yeah, that cop still banged Jenny Loser....notice the capital L?


372 posted on 05/31/2010 5:35:48 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: EAGLE7
Really? Most conservatives support Law Enforcement. It is the liberals who mostly bash Police and a MINORITY of conservatives that do so.

Go back and read the thread. Three cop suckers; you Moonman62 and GreenStreak are the only ones attempting to justify police brutality. Everyone else understands that the cop should be in jail.

373 posted on 05/31/2010 5:49:07 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo

On this thread, yes there are three of us with common sense..or perhaps we do lack common sense and refrained from engaging people like you like most of the conservatives on FR have.


374 posted on 05/31/2010 6:07:53 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: Moonman62
After slamming his head into the concrete wall, is he also expected to yank the unconscious body away from the wall? My first aid training taught me to never move a victim of trauma!!!
375 posted on 05/31/2010 6:37:42 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: Randy Larsen
His head wasn't directly or intentionally slammed into the wall. The officer knocked him to the ground and he hit his head as a consequence of that. After watching the video a few more times it appears that the officer is keeping his eyes on the suspect's hands and getting the hands immobilized as soon as possible, which in such a situation is what he's trained to do. Due to the quality of the video and lack of audio, there is no way to tell the suspect's level of consciousness. It is common for the majority of the damage after brain injuries to occur some time after they happen. There is no mention of spinal injury.

Your question is good one, which is why I find it significant that the biased reporter and the plaintiff's attorney didn't mention it.

376 posted on 05/31/2010 8:58:18 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Grunthor
E. Pluribus Unum does not believe in undercover policework.

I don't believe in low-life narcissists who think they're in a movie having badges and guns.

377 posted on 06/01/2010 5:46:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: EAGLE7
Actually, was not referring to the cop, but rather to you in your posts #159, 174, 275, 276 declaring he had drugs.

But the problem is he didn't have drugs. You WANTED him to have drugs to help justify what the cop did.

That is a reason people have lost confidence in cops - they make stuff up or have perfect memories of things that never occurred then lie about it.

378 posted on 06/01/2010 7:06:20 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: EAGLE7

I would hardly expect someone like you to understand the concept, but it’s something called “Duty.” Duty to one’s fellows, duty to accomplish the mission. Whatever the PERSONAL cost, the job needs to be completed. Duty is a harsh taskmistress, a really nasty bitch. She demands nothing more or less than everything we are and everything we hope to be and she will accept nothing less. And we learn Duty with our “mother’s milk” in boot camp, whether it be Parris Island (my alma mater) or San Diego. Then we learn the concept of “Honor.” As in “Duty, Honor, Country.” We learn from hard won experience that when we go into combat, we are, right down at the root, right where the rubber meets the road, fighting for our buddies, doing WHATEVER it takes to ensure we don’t let THEM down, no matter the personal cost. Duty and Honor. The concept of “Country” is more vague and esoteric in combat; it only really hits home when we’re back in garrison. That “Country” is what spurred us to enlist in the first place. Protecting the American People, the bedrock source of our authority to exist as Marines in the first place. The oath we take specifically enjoins us to protect and defend the Constitution for the United States from all its enemies, foreign and domestic. It’s not one we take lightly, nor is it an oath we are EVER relieved of this side of the grave.

There’s a book you should read called “Operation Buffalo: Marine Corps Fight for the DMZ” It exemplifies what I am talking about. And it’s about what happened to a lot of my personal friends, people who can tell you a thing or three about Duty and Honor.

Since the American People are the source of our authority, in a later post I will point out to you just what that means. For now, just be sure that your job, not unlike mine, is NOT about YOU going home at the end of the day; it’s about protecting and serving the people whose taxes are taken to pay your salary. Yes, AFTER THAT you can look to your safety and that of your partner. But not until you fulfill the requirements imposed by Duty and Honor.


379 posted on 06/01/2010 2:48:52 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: EAGLE7

Oh, and also please provide the actual EVIDENCE of his possession of illicit substances. There seems to be a dearth of it in the actual police report, and you KNOW that if they had any evidence that he had on his person or was shown to be buying drugs that they would have trotted it out CENTER STAGE so as to “justify” the actions of that jackbooted moron.

It’s sure easy for you to cry about drugs, but the cops at the actual scene would have LOVED to have seen them. That they didn’t just goes to show off YOUR lies and wild ass guesses. There is no other justification for your bullbleep, nothing from the police report that substantiates your “allegations.” Too bad, huh?


380 posted on 06/01/2010 2:59:24 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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