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West Memphis police chief says officers' pistols were no match for heavily armed teenager
Commercial Appeal ^ | 05/27/2010 | Commercial Appeal

Posted on 05/28/2010 11:56:30 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

West Memphis police officer Bill Evans was found lying face down in a ditch after being shot multiple times by a 16-year-old, including a shot in the back, the city's police chief said Tuesday.

The chief said his son, a sergeant over the criminal interdiction unit, took cover Thursday behind his vehicle as teenager Joseph Kane opened fire with an AK-47. He said bullets pierced the engine and the car and shattered glass. Brandon was riddled with bullets before being shot in the back of the head, Paudert said.

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Paudert told them that as of Tuesday, he wanted officers carrying shotguns on traffic stops. He wanted one officer to approach while a second officer stood back with a shotgun ready to fire if the situation turns dangerous.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Arkansas; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: jerrykane; joekane; kane; torturedexcerpt; westmemphis
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To: Lancey Howard

These were 2 separate incidents, spaced almost 2 hours apart. There are no pics or video released yet showing that these are the same people who killed the cops.


21 posted on 05/29/2010 1:10:08 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: GeronL
They jumped out of their car at Wal-Mart and started hosing down two cops with bullets with no warning. One of the cops wasn't even armed.

Sheriff injured in West Memphis shooting says 'All hell broke loose'

If it happened to be a different father/son pair in a different white van, that just happened to have no plates on it, they still deserved to be shot.

22 posted on 05/29/2010 1:20:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Sad situation, but likely to be over-reacted to. Another crisis that won’t be allowed to go to waste.

There are too many missing details to even list, but mine would start with what flavor of “AK47” was it - semi or full-auto?

And I’m not sure what kind of tactics they’re going to employ with a scattergun on a traffic stop.


23 posted on 05/29/2010 1:48:39 AM PDT by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: Global2010
Is there a lil uncivil war going on between Law enforcement and the underbelly of society?

There's this story from WWII about how people in Germany knew the war wasn't going exactly how the propaganda masters were spinning it when all the glorious victories of the Fatherland were happening closer and closer to Berlin. This is another glorious victory in the War on Drugs.

24 posted on 05/29/2010 2:06:12 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: Ingtar
I suppose my haste to comment comes from seeing so many jump to conclusions that the police were automatically wrong.

It would seem the "jump" was warranted, and your "haste" was not...

25 posted on 05/29/2010 2:06:22 AM PDT by papertyger (Terrorists can't throw out the politicians: patriots can. So who is their enemy?)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Paudert told them that as of Tuesday, he wanted officers carrying shotguns on traffic stops. He wanted one officer to approach while a second officer stood back with a shotgun ready to fire if the situation turns dangerous.
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Yeah ,, that’s a plan I can get behind ,, have Fred put a bead on Suzie Homemakers head while Billy-Bob writes her up for not using her turn signals.. What a moron this police chief is .. he should be picking up trash alongside the road.

Of course the upside is that with 2 cops in each shakedown/traffic car they’ll rob the public a bit less as they will naturally write fewer tickets than 2 individual shakedown/revenue units.


26 posted on 05/29/2010 3:09:28 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: octex
The headline seems to indicate that the officers couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn with their pistols, but a 16 y/o kid was a much better shot with an AK. ...???

One thing I never understand is the whole 'AKs are inaccurate.' They are not. They have greater tolerances than an AR type weapon, and over long distances the AR will have better accuracy than the AK. However, take an AR, give me an AK, and I guarantee you up to 300 yds I will match you shot for shot. Obviously in the hands of a Mujahadeen spraying and praying it is a different story, but in my hands a Kalashnikov is accurate enough for each round to count. Now, in this case the 16 year old was only some feet away, the cops were taking cover from the 7.62 rounds, and the outcome was more or less a given. Reminds me of that Hollywood shooting. Anyways, an AK style weapon un yhe right hands is a widow maker

27 posted on 05/29/2010 3:54:59 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: TigersEye

It’s interesting that a good sized dog jumps out of the vehicle.


28 posted on 05/29/2010 3:56:01 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: octex

A pistol is no match for a rifle. End o’ story. Your handgun is what you use to fight your way back to your long gun.


29 posted on 05/29/2010 4:27:56 AM PDT by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: spetznaz

I believe that the accuracy of the AKs depend on whether they are hammered together in the hills of Afghanistan or manufactured in a modern facility. The Romanian units, for example, shoot pretty tight, considering the type of weapon.


30 posted on 05/29/2010 4:39:04 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: Global2010

Believe me when I say this, I am not anti-cop nor would I ever condone killing a cop, it is disgusting, have 2 bro. that were LEO.

However, cops today are not the cops of the past. I think today they are viewed as militant bullies, more around to harass than protect.

The cops that were around when I was growing up were part of the community, they used common sense, you were not intimidated by them, yet you respected them.

RIP Officers


31 posted on 05/29/2010 5:03:58 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

As a parent of a LEO, and whose son attended the funerals, my heart goes out to these families and the community over their loss; they are in my prayers.


32 posted on 05/29/2010 5:08:24 AM PDT by NicNacPattyWac
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To: Lancey Howard

Is that really the guy? Weird.


33 posted on 05/29/2010 5:20:57 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Global2010
"Is there a lil uncivil war going on between Law enforcement and the underbelly of society?"

Mexican drug cartel types. Far more violent than our native criminal class. And that's probably where the "AK-47" came from.

34 posted on 05/29/2010 5:24:00 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Big_Harry
I believe that the accuracy of the AKs depend on whether they are hammered together in the hills of Afghanistan or manufactured in a modern facility.

Yes, the handmade ones do tend to be much more accurate.

35 posted on 05/29/2010 5:26:11 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: GeronL

You are really beginning to get on my last ragged nerve.


36 posted on 05/29/2010 6:03:01 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (ue)
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To: islander-11
At these ranges a well trained officer with a pistol would be just fine.
37 posted on 05/29/2010 6:54:07 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: panthermom

We have the pro community non bully type in our area.


38 posted on 05/29/2010 8:11:12 AM PDT by Global2010 ( I can't wait untill Lent comes in 2011.)
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To: Jack Black

Yes, that’s really him.
Here is more info about the perps.

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/local/052110-information-surfaces-on-possible-west-memphis-shooting-suspects


39 posted on 05/29/2010 8:36:34 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: TigersEye
If it happened to be a different father/son pair in a different white van, that just happened to have no plates on it, they still deserved to be shot.

wow. So the cops should just open fire when they see two white men in a white van? Do we stop after a dozen or two?

40 posted on 05/29/2010 9:21:28 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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