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The S&P Is Going To 850, And There Are 10 Leading Indicators That Are Rolling Over Right Now
The Business Insider ^ | 5-26-2010 | Vince Veneziani and Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 05/26/2010 8:09:27 AM PDT by blam

David Rosenberg: The S&P Is Going To 850, And There Are 10 Leading Indicators That Are Rolling Over Right Now

Vince Veneziani and Joe Weisenthal
May 26, 2010, 10:56 AMA

From this morning's Breakfast With Dave note, Rosenberg presents the basic argument that what goes up big will come down big:

There have only been two other times when the stock market ran parabolically up from a low in barely over a year, as was the case this time around (+80% from March 2009 to April 2010): the 112% surge from June 1, 1932 to September 7, 1932; and the 116% runup from March 2, 1933 to July 18, 1933. In the first case, we had a 40% correction and in the second, the correction was 34%. So, we are talking here about the prospect of a pretty hefty reversal in the S&P 500 that could very easily take the index down to as low as 850, if the history of these types of givebacks is any indication.

The problem for Mr. Market is that it went into this latest Europe-induced ordeal with an excessively bullish GDP growth outlook for the U.S.A. – at the April highs, we would argue that a GDP growth rate of 6% was effectively being discounted. How nutty is that?

So, where next?

In the aftermath of the correction, the equity market is now pricing in a growth rate closer to 3.5% — the fact that earnings have been rising while the market has been correcting has helped cut the degree of overvaluation in half, to a 0.5 standard deviation from 1.0 just over a month ago on a Shiller normalized P/E ratio basis. But the ECRI leading economic index is actually foreshadowing a deceleration in real GDP growth, to 1.5% ...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: davidrosenberg; markets; sp; stocks
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1 posted on 05/26/2010 8:09:27 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Well, just goes to show... markets go up and markets go down... then they go up... then they go down... rinse and repeat...


2 posted on 05/26/2010 8:11:18 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: blam

It is at 12.70 now so it will lose a 3rd?


3 posted on 05/26/2010 8:12:01 AM PDT by edcoil (Kingdoms have never survived. Don't let any new ones be formed.)
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To: blam

Didn’t you get the word? The recession is over. Happy days are here again.


4 posted on 05/26/2010 8:15:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: blam

good time to buy the SH ETF.


5 posted on 05/26/2010 8:19:13 AM PDT by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve been watching markets for a while now. can’t remember ever seeing the volatility and momentum changes like we see today. The little boy on the side of the curb, watching the king’s parade, might utter, when not commenting on the absence of His Majesty’s clothing, that, perhaps, the market is being manipulated by the political class to save their political *ss!


6 posted on 05/26/2010 8:19:29 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: blam

dont worry, Obammie is on it. just this week he commanded that the gulf oil leak be plugged.


7 posted on 05/26/2010 8:22:16 AM PDT by tm61 (somewhere in chicago, a ward is missing it's crook)
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To: April Lexington

>> Well, just goes to show... markets go up and markets go down... then they go up... then they go down... rinse and repeat...

I know; I’ve seen the charts.

The funny thing is, I’ve only seen those charts for the past. NEVER the future.

Is there a website where I can subscribe to the charts for, say, next month? I’m sure SOMEONE sells them. When I find out where to get them I’m gonna be RICH!!!


8 posted on 05/26/2010 8:23:43 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: edcoil
It is at 12.70 now so it will lose a 3rd?

No, the S&P 500 at the moment is 1086, up 12 on the day. So the authors are calling for a decline of about 22%.

I share their general bearishness, but I don't have a specific number in mind.

9 posted on 05/26/2010 8:26:47 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues." -- Abraham Lincol)
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To: Nervous Tick

And they will only cost you a handfull of beans


10 posted on 05/26/2010 8:27:41 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: southernnorthcarolina

ack


11 posted on 05/26/2010 8:28:23 AM PDT by edcoil (Kingdoms have never survived. Don't let any new ones be formed.)
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To: blam

life on the democrat plantation.

/s


12 posted on 05/26/2010 8:31:41 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: blam

I’m invested in fertile land, guns and ammo, and gold.
See you on the other side.


13 posted on 05/26/2010 8:32:20 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: blam
PPT won't let it happen. Yesterday when there was a big sell off at the opening, all of a sudden all of the floor traders wireless handsets shut off so that they couldn't trade. Stopped the fall until the big banks could prop the market up again. When they had the fat fingers drop they just erased the down side trades. The Stock market no longer has any connection to reality. Obama has decreed that there will be no stock market drop below 10K on the DJIA and he will print money, erase trades, use the big banks to buy up the stock with fiat money.
14 posted on 05/26/2010 8:33:29 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

did this really happen? Source? I know the stock market ticker I used “stopped” at 9:46 for about 15 minutes.


15 posted on 05/26/2010 8:46:47 AM PDT by silverleaf
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To: GonzoGOP

I am wondering if this is an ecconomic attack by outside sources.


16 posted on 05/26/2010 8:47:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GonzoGOP

“The Stock market no longer has any connection to reality.”

Oh G0!
that’s encouraging........

But I do have my fertile land and “personal property protection tools”.


17 posted on 05/26/2010 8:48:49 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (Where is the Black Regiment?)
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To: silverleaf
did this really happen? Source? I know the stock market ticker I used “stopped” at 9:46 for about 15 minutes.

Fox Business news. They were actually running video of all the traders lined up at the tunnel trying to place their trades manually. The story was that it was a "Technical Difficulty". But it was the most perfectly timed glitch I have ever seen.
18 posted on 05/26/2010 8:52:22 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: April Lexington

“can’t remember ever seeing the volatility and momentum changes like we see today.”

I can. Fall and winter of 2008-2009.


19 posted on 05/26/2010 8:57:38 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GonzoGOP
The Stock market no longer has any connection to reality. Obama has decreed that there will be no stock market drop below 10K on the DJIA and he will print money, erase trades, use the big banks to buy up the stock with fiat money. - If there is a GOP victory in November then reality can be allowed to kick in!
20 posted on 05/26/2010 9:09:01 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (A country can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within.)
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