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The more dangerous illegal immigrant threat
The Washington Times ^ | May 25, 2010 | Mike Benge

Posted on 05/26/2010 6:36:13 AM PDT by Interesting Times

Jack Webb didn't quite get it right in "Arizona law racially profiles for a reason" (Letters, Wednesday) when he wrote, "The problem at issue is people illegally crossing the southern border with Mexico - and it so happens that virtually 100 percent of the people doing so are Hispanic."

An even greater threat to U.S. security than illegal Hispanic immigrants is the number of immigrants from terror-sponsoring countries who are crossing our borders. Hundreds of such people are detained by the U.S. Border Patrol; however, our government is catching only one out of 10 people crossing the border. Those immigrants include Hezebollah terrorists and others from Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen. Evidence suggests that Mexican drug cartels may be aiding these illegals.

Channel 2 News Atlanta recently investigated this security threat, but the major news media seem to have ignored it. I'm sure it didn't come up in recent discussions between President Obama and Mexican President Felipe Calderon. Arizona Republican Senate hopeful J.D. Hayworth, who is challenging Republican Sen. John McCain in his re-election bid, says he has read congressional reports about this security threat, and the American public is being kept in the dark about it.

Arizona legislators are right; this is one more confirmation that the federal government is not doing its job.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borders; epicfail; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; mexico; nationalsecurity; otm; otms; usborders
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Another excellent reason to control our borders...
1 posted on 05/26/2010 6:36:13 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...

Drug cartel / jihadi / smuggler alliance ping.


2 posted on 05/26/2010 6:37:43 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Interesting Times

Round them up and deport them. Mine the border and shoot on sight any that try to cross. Arrest all employers who hire them and strip citizenship for all anchor babies.


3 posted on 05/26/2010 6:38:16 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: Interesting Times
Sealing the border is fine but we have to stop giving welfare and jobs to the illegal aliens. As long as they can be given government freebies and jobs, they will continue to find a way over the border.

If you build it, they will STILL come. Shut off the freebies.

4 posted on 05/26/2010 6:42:04 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Kiss my AZ!!!)
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To: Interesting Times
Some people are stuck on stupid ignoring the reality of experience and intelligence. Cheap labor, and VOTES out of flooded invasion... is not going to create prosperity on either side of the border. Lawlessness begets disorder and destruction. Wonder if this is NOT the real agenda?
5 posted on 05/26/2010 6:42:11 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Interesting Times

BTTT


6 posted on 05/26/2010 6:44:37 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Interesting Times
I think conservatives should demand these so called elected representatives show our respect for the President of Mexico and enact his Mexican Immigration LAWs...

Think maybe he exports these illegals into his country into ours???

7 posted on 05/26/2010 6:45:25 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping!


8 posted on 05/26/2010 6:54:21 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Just mythoughts

Great idea! And we could enlist his words as our motto “Send back them”.


9 posted on 05/26/2010 6:55:57 AM PDT by landerwy (Zero lied, who else will die?)
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To: Interesting Times

Ray Stevens on illegals “COME TO THE USA”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgOHOHKBEqE


10 posted on 05/26/2010 6:58:32 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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"The problem at issue is people illegally crossing the southern border with Mexico - and it so happens that virtually 100 percent of the people doing so are Hispanic."

Not sure I agree with that statement. There is a term among Border Patrol and LEO called OTM (other than Mexican).

11 posted on 05/26/2010 7:04:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


12 posted on 05/26/2010 8:14:26 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: Just mythoughts

“Lawlessness begets disorder and destruction. Wonder if this is NOT the real agenda? “

That is Obama’s agenda.


13 posted on 05/26/2010 8:32:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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Drug cartel / jihadi / smuggler alliance ping.
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14 posted on 05/26/2010 8:32:58 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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Obama is going to start race wars. Count on it.


15 posted on 05/26/2010 8:33:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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Wonder if this is NOT the real agenda?

Undoubtedly, it is.

16 posted on 05/26/2010 8:40:59 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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Obama is going to start race wars.

He's off to a good start, and we're running out of time.

17 posted on 05/26/2010 8:48:18 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Obama has already started by playing the race card.


18 posted on 05/26/2010 8:51:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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Mexico facilitates the staging area by which Third World and other illegals cross the border into the US. The staging area is a hugely profitable industry for drug lords who demand illegals carry drugs into the US for the price of passage.

The Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill rewards Mexico b/c they calculatedly promote illegal immigration. The CIR bill introduced by former cab driver, Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill), will make it much easier for more illegal aliens to break in.

Under CIR, to prove they have jobs and were in the country BEFORE Congress passed amnesty, illegals are allowed to use easily bought stolen ID's, fake green cards, and fraudulent SS numbers....... without fear of prosecution.

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REFERENCES

Jose Madrigal, Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities.

EACH FAKE IDENTITY COLLECTS US GOVT FREEEBIES,
--- AND AS EVERY DESPERATE DEMOCRAT KNOWS ---
EACH FAKE IDENTITY VOTES AND VOTES AND VOTES

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May 25, 2010
Nine charged in phony IDs case
San Antonio Express News | Guillermo Contreras
R Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 by Racehorse

Agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement have taken down a ring accused of providing fake identities for hundreds of people in San Antonio and Austin. After six months of investigation, ICE agents charged nine people in the case, and seven have been arrested. The other two, one of whom is one of the ringleaders, remain at large.

At a hearing in federal court Monday in San Antonio for one of the suspects, ICE agent Timothy McElligott testified about a series of raids in San Antonio and Austin that turned up document-making equipment, blank identity cards stock and Social Security cards.

The ring was “distributing and selling drivers' licenses from different states, identity documents and immigration-related documents like Social Security cards and green cards,” said Jerry Robinette, special agent in charge of ICE in San Antonio, whose territory includes Austin and stretches to the Rio Grande Valley.

The fakes also included drivers' licenses from other countries, such as Honduras, McElligott testified. All the suspects are either Mexican nationals or undocumented immigrants, according to ICE. The documents generally sold for $100 each, agents found. An undercover agent bought a fake green card, Social Security card and Texas driver's license during the probe.

McElligott testified that suspect Johnnys Amilca Raudales Moncada admitted to being one of the sellers of the counterfeit documents, though the suspect argued at Monday's hearing that he did not participate. The suspect was one of two men found when agents served a search warrant at an apartment in the 9200 block of North Plaza in Austin. Investigators believe the ring was led in San Antonio by Gregory Hernandez Trolle and in Austin by a man tentatively identified as Carlos Saldaña. Trolle is in custody without bond and waived his preliminary and bail hearing, along with five of the other suspects, leaving Amilca Raudales Moncada as the lone suspect to contest the agents' evidence.

Hernandez, whose apartment in the 10300 block of Sahara in San Antonio was raided May 12, admitted to agents that he manufactured “at least 1,000” counterfeit IDs in the past four months, McElligott testified. Saldaña has not been found since agents initially saw him at one of the target locations during their investigation, according to McElligott. McElligott testified that the ring spent about $15,000 on document-making machines and supplies from Alpha Card, an Oregon company that provides similar equipment for government agencies or private businesses, which use the equipment to make identifications for employees.

At Monday's hearing, U.S. Magistrate Judge Nancy Nowak found probable cause that Amilca Raudales Moncada was involved in the conspiracy to make, possess or transfer fake identification documents. She ordered him detained without bond.Also charged are Miguel “Joel” Vasquez Diaz, Alexander Perez, Leonel Gobos Murillo, Bernardina “Brenda” Rodriguez, Daniel Alberto Chacon Ramon and a suspect not in custody whose name was not released.

The case is likely to be presented to a grand jury in the coming weeks. If convicted, each suspect faces up to five years in prison. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/nine_charged_inphony_ids_case_94800264.html

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June 21, 2006
2 Texans accused of planning to sell counterfeit IDs

NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- (AP) ---The Pelcastre brothers were a walking threat to national security -- expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said. (ED. They sell drugs to get the money to buy fake documents.)

When police stumbled across the Pelcastre brothers, the men had turned a Tonnelle Avenue hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local identity broker, authorities said.

The brothers, Angel, 31, and Jorge, 34, both of Dallas, were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of government documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the country including passports and resident alien cards .

"Can you imagine if a terrorist were able to get their hands on this stuff? They'd have free passage throughout the country." Note that Mexico is the global staging area for entry across US borders.

A task force including NJ state troopers and officers from both the Bergen and Hudson county prosecutors' offices happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in the parking lot of the hotel. Authorities wouldn't identify the hotel by name for fear it could hinder cooperation from other hotels in future investigations or spark retribution from savage, murderous drug lords.

A Task Force regularly runs checks on motor vehicles in area motels. Members of the task force began watching the cars, a Chevrolet Impala and a Pontiac Firebird, and followed the brothers to an office supply store in a nearby shopping center, where the men purchased computer supplies.

Officers then followed the brothers to a self-storage facility in Secaucus, where they loaded several boxes from a storage unit into one of the cars, Jones said. One of the men stood lookout, which heightened police suspicion, he said. Authorities approached the men when they returned to the hotel and questioned them separately, Jones said. The brothers consented to a search of their cars, hotel room and the storage facility, he said.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards.

"They were aggressively selling to brokers," he said. "This isn't like selling driver's licenses to individuals. These were multiple layers of high-level documents."

The brothers were being held in jail without bail on charges of possessing fraudulent documents and conspiracy to sell fraudulent documents. Federal charges are also pending against them.

19 posted on 05/26/2010 9:04:45 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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An even greater threat to US national security than Hispanics invading the US is immigrants from terror-sponsoring countries crossing our borders. Hundreds are invading the US...... including Hezebollah terrorists and others from Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen.

Evidence suggests that Mexican drug cartels may be aiding these illegals.

20 posted on 05/26/2010 9:08:17 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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