Posted on 05/24/2010 8:33:35 PM PDT by tlb
Yesterday, brought us media pundits stumbling through basic citizenship questions, today brings us John McCain nemesis J.D. Hayworth stumbling through basic U.S. history questions…sort of.
Hayworth is making some headlines for telling an audience member at local GOP gathering that technically speaking the U.S. never declared war in Nazi Germany. Cue collective gasp (and a lot of Texas textbook jokes).
Here’s what he said in full in response to an audience member who remarked on how the U.S. no longer formally declares war in modern conflicts:
I would also point out, that if we want to be sticklers, the war that Dwight Eisenhower led in Europe against the Third Reich was never declared by the United States Congress…Recall, the Congress passed a war resolution against Japan. Germany declared war on us two days later. We never formally declared war on Hitler’s Germany, and yet we fought the war. [And later, when an audience member disagreed] I think we should check it. Perhaps we made the rationalization — since there was the Axis alliance — that the attack of Japan was tantamount to the attack of the Third Reich. But as I recall in my history, Germany declared war on the United States, not vice-versa.”
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Apparently the McCain/Palin camp is out in full force tonight.
I guess we’d better declare war on Germany immediately just to set things straight. Shame. I kind of liked Frau Merkel.
No, when war happens to you it happens no matter what you've got to say on the matter.
J.D. is not the brightest bulb on the tree.
Perhaps we should point out that 0bama stated that Canada has a president, that Europe is a country as well as other examples in which the messiah has misspoke when the left tries to portray JD Hayworth as “dumb.”
That’s not the point. The point he was making was that the US didn’t formally declare war. Germany declared war on us and a state of war existed, but he is saying that congress didn’t formally declare war on Germany, but they did on Japan. I don’t know if that’s true or not.
Unlike after the attack on Pearl Harbor, FDR didn't go to Congress and make a speech. He simply sent a request.
It doesn’t really matter. Japan and Germany made war on us. End of story.
Oh, my goodness. Well, that cuts it. Let’s all go out and vote for that worthless RINO scum McCain, whose Presidential nomination cleared the way for his good buddy Zero’s coronation.
And... Germany and Italy declared war on the US before we declared war on them.
“Friends of John McCain” REALLY pissed me off tonight when they decided to call me about halfway through “24”. Caller I.D. is our friend but I’m still pissed off. “FRIENDS OF JOHN MC” is how it came up on the screen complete with a Phoenix phone number. The wife cracked up when I asked her if she ever heard of John’s Motorcycle Club. True story. I thought they were looking for some “toys for tots” or something.
J.D., just stick to beating McCain, okay?
Hayworth doesn’t read history books, McCain doesn’t read legislation, and Palin doesn’t read anything. ;-)
...joking on the Palin thing, couldn’t help it!
I have no idea what JD was discussing when this was brought up.
1941-12-11 Congress declared war on Germany and Italy. Vote was unanimous, unlike 1941-12-08, in which there was one hold-out in the House.
I still favor Hayworth and Paul, however, despite their tendencies to step in it now and again.
Whereas the Government of Germany has formally declared war against the Government and the people of the United States of America:
Therefore be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the state of war between the United States and the Government of Germany which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Government of Germany; and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.
Approved, December 11, 1941, 3:05 p.m., E. S. T.
88-0 Senate Vote
393-0 House Vote
We did declare war on Germany on Dec. 11, 1941.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/WorldWar2/declare2.htm
We declared war on Germany AFTER they declared war on us. I don’t think that’s the same thing. We declared war on Japan as a result of their attack, but they didn’t “declare” war on us, they acted. It’s splitting hairs and I’m not sure what that was all about.
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