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1 posted on 05/24/2010 3:36:03 PM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

I thought his claim of 7,000 gun dealers along the border had just a touch of exaggeration, too.


2 posted on 05/24/2010 3:38:32 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: AJKauf
Yep, the druggies get most assault weapons from Mexican Army deserters or soldier-thieves.
3 posted on 05/24/2010 3:39:56 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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Mexican mafia are packing machine guns, hand grenades, and bazookas.

You don’t get these at the Walmart in El Paso.


4 posted on 05/24/2010 3:40:57 PM PDT by marron
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Anyone care to speculate on his motivation for this? What could he gain?


5 posted on 05/24/2010 3:42:49 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: AJKauf

Like this is a surprise.

This needs to become a major plank in the Pubbie campaign:

“President Obama and the Democrats of Congress applauded a corrupt the foreign leader of a hostile nation as he lied about and condemned the lawful practices of an American state and lied about American gunowners.”


6 posted on 05/24/2010 3:48:00 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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“Yes, it is an accepted fact that more machine guns (typically M16s) are sold to cartels from inside the Mexican military and police forces than are smuggled across the border from the United States.”

Interesting. I didn’t know Mexico had M16’s in any quantity. I thought I’d read somewhere their army and police primarily used the H&K G3. I guess they would have other weapons though.

The important thing is, they (the cartels) are able to get them because of corruption within Mexico’s borders. Maybe President Calderone should work on that instead of blaming the United States, hmm?


9 posted on 05/24/2010 3:51:29 PM PDT by DemforBush (There's another old saying, Senator: Don't p*** down my back and tell me it's raining.)
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This is all part of Calderon's script! If you don't believe there is a conspiracy you are hopeless. All the crap is intended to justify what they've already decided to try.

The sheeple will eat it up!

11 posted on 05/24/2010 3:54:47 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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Calderon was filled with Obamao’s crap before giving his speech, and he spewed it out on Congress, much to their delight.


14 posted on 05/24/2010 3:59:06 PM PDT by pallis
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President Calderon is drawing attention away from the problem: the north part of Mexico is no longer under government control: it is under control of three groups of vicious deadly narcotraficantes: Sinaloa Cartel, Juarez Cartel, and Zetas. American guns are not the problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaloa_Cartel
“Allegations of collusion with Mexican federal government forces”

“In May 2010 NPR aired a report alleging that the Mexican federal police and military were working in collusion with the Sinaloa Cartel. In particular, it claimed they were helping Sinaloa to take control of the Juarez Valley area and destroy the other cartels, especially La Linea (the ‘Juarez Cartel’). The report quotes a former Juarez police commander who claimed the entire department was working for the Sinaloa and helping it to fight other groups. He also claimed that Sinaloa had bribed the military. Also quoted was a Mexican reporter who claimed hearing numerous times from the public that the military had been involved in murders. Another source in the story was the US trial of Manuel Fierro-Mendez, an ex-Juarez police captain who admitted to working for Sinaloa. He claimed that Sinaloa influenced the Mexican government and military in order to gain control of the region. A US DEA agent in the same trial alleged that Fierro-Mendez had contacts with a Mexican military officer. The report also alleged, with support from an anthropologist who studies drug trafficking, that data on the low arrest rate of Sinaloa cartel members (compared to other groups) was evidence of favoritism on the part of the authorities. A Mexican official denied the allegation of favoritism, and a DEA agent and a political scientist also had alternate explanations for the arrest data.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juárez_Cartel

“The Juárez Cartel (Spanish: Cártel de Juárez), also known as the Vicente Carrillo Fuentes Organization, is a Mexican drug cartel based in Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua, Mexico, across the border from El Paso, Texas. The Juárez Cartel controls one of the primary transportation routes for billions of dollars worth of illegal drug shipments annually entering the United States from Mexico. Drug lords from contiguous Mexican states have forged alliances in recent years creating a cartel that sometimes is referred to as ‘The Golden Triangle Alliance’ or ‘La Alianza Triángulo de Oro’ because of its three-state area of influence: Chihuahua, south of the U.S. state of Texas, Durango and Sinaloa. The Juarez Cartel is a ruthless, dangerous drug trafficking organization that has been known to decapitate their rivals and mutilate their corpses and dump them in public to instill fear not only to the general public but to local law enforcement and their rivals, the Sinaloa Cartel.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Zetas

“Los Zetas is a criminal organization in Mexico dedicated mostly to international illegal drug trade and other organized crime activitites. This drug cartel was founded by an elite force of assassins from Mexican Army deserters and is now integrated by corrupt ex-federal, state, and local police officers, as well as ex-Kaibiles from Guatemala.
This group of highly trained gunmen was first hired as a private mercenary army for Mexico’s Gulf Cartel. Since the arrest of its leader, Osiel Cárdenas Guillen, as well as other events, the two entities became a combined trafficking force, with the Zetas taking a more active leadership role in drug trafficking.[2][3][4][5] Since February 2010 Los Zetas have gone independent and became enemies of its former employer/partner, the Gulf Cartel.
Los Zetas are led by Heriberto “El Lazca” Lazcano and are considered by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) as probably being the most violent paramilitary enforcement group in Mexico, capturing women and children tourist from the U.S and holding them for ransom. [6][7] Los Zetas have expanded their operations to Italy with the ‘Ndrangheta.[8]”

So, Presidenete Calderon, perhaps you should spend some time figuring out how to subdue these criminals who operate freely with guns in gun-banning Mexico and who control the government in every northern state in Mexico, rather than spending your time trying to figure out how to deprive your American citizen neighbors from their RTKBA, which ensures that we have no Zetas, nor Sinaloa nor Juarez Cartel, or if they do show up, we can shoot back, unlike your own Mexican citizens.

At present Mexico is a failed state. The President of Mexico has no standing to lecture Americans about their own states’ laws and about restricting their constitutional rights to keep and bear arms.


21 posted on 05/24/2010 8:23:49 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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