Posted on 05/24/2010 8:44:47 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW
When I heard that this guy’s entire study was based on examining just 12 children I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. When I heard that at the time of the study he was being paid by a lawyer planning a class action suit against the vaccine maker, I was angry that he had duped so many parents of autistic children.
“Will vaccines didnt start in 1996 so that should be a clue that they arent the cause.”
I didnt claim they started in 96’...that’s where the graph starts...
Now about the five fold increase?
BTW...I’ve come to hold all science with about the same regard as I do the global warming cult or the swine flu alarmists...
People have agenda’s ,programs at risk , revenue streams and grant funding to protect...
Call me a skeptic...or a good judge of human nature...
I read the study and Wakesfield’s conclusion made perfect sense: there is a link between Autism and vaccines.
Think what that conclusion means to the pharmaceutical industry!!! (and to population control people). Wakefield has got to be Alinskyed alright! No doubt about it. Destroy him because he is logical and can think and arrive at a reasoned conclusion with observed data. Refuse to debate the issue, kill the truth of the study.
Of course there is a link! Tiny human bodies with undeveloped immune systems being injected with KNOWN TOXINS and to say, wow, “that does NOTHING negative to their little bodies” is absolutely INSANE.
Don’t you guys read Gates’ views on sterilizing and vaccinations? You think the cabal that controls zero doesn’t want to eliminate billions of people? You actually TRUST big government and the direction this country is going when it is the government mandating dozens of toxic injections into babies...it has grown so much over the past few decades. Increase the toxins by 10-fold and NO EFFECT??????
Right. It is too disgusting and horrible to think the truth.
Just ask yourself, why “they” mandate a vaccination for a one day old baby with known toxins for a disease that 99% of babies in the US will not be exposed to. Money? Profit? beginnings of Mercury-induced sterilization, beginnings of destroying neuron development?
What gets me is this....if my dog gets vaccinated, I am told if she has any reactions to bring her right back. Meanwhile, I have known too many people who have had their children vaccinated and when they brought them to the doctor or E.R. for a bad reaction, they were told it couldn’t possibly be the vaccination.
A technology magazine? Ok.
See post 15.
From Wiki (with references):
SV40 was found to cause tumors in rodents.[46] More recently, the virus was found in certain forms of cancer in humans, for instance brain and bone tumors, mesotheliomas, and some types of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.[47][48] However, it has not been determined that SV40 causes these cancers.[49]
In 1998, the National Cancer Institute undertook a large study, using cancer case information from the Institutes SEER database. The published findings from the study revealed that there was no increased incidence of cancer in persons who may have received vaccine containing SV40.[51] Another large study in Sweden examined cancer rates of 700,000 individuals who had received potentially contaminated polio vaccine as late as 1957; the study again revealed no increased cancer incidence between persons who received polio vaccines containing SV40 and those who did not.[52]
Now, do you have any legitimate scientific evidence showing that vaccines cause autism or not? The issue has been studied vigorously and no such link has ever been found.
Always. Happens everytime. And I never had a child get a vaccine that didn't get a fever and/or the site of the injection wasn't red and swollen.
I'm of the opinion that vaccines can be safe but mass production makes them risky or the delivery system, or adjuvant, is tainted.
If you read the CDC page, they also note that Thimersol was removed in some European counties in 1992, and there as well, no change in autism rates.
You believe wikipedia and think they have no leftist agenda?! Um. Ok.
History shows that there are a lot more kooks than lonely geniuses. You can probably count the number or true lonely geniuses on one hand, while just about any small university or college has scores of kooks.
Politics and science shouldnt mix. Scientists should be cautious when they enter into any area in which there are political forces at work, pro or con. With government managing heatlhcare, doctors will have to tread lightly, and realize that political expedience trumps public safety.
You don’t like wikipedia, don’t like tech magazines (please read it - even if you go in with a skeptical point of view), so where are you getting your point of view that vaccines are dangerous?
Luddites and chemicalphobes will believe whatever they want to believe regardless of how much information they are presented with. If you want to believe in things that cannot be proven then nothing I say will change your mind.
Elvis is alive and living with aliens. Right?
What does a tech magazine have to do with vaccines?
One of the problems that I find as a conservative is that the left controls most of the information conduits. I see them spin info on everything so I view everything with skepticism.
Another example of spin is the Gardasil crap. It was ok'ed by the FDA before the studies were even done. And they are mislabeling it and the hiding side affects.
Vaccines may be safe but what about the method of mass production? What about the adjuvants? There have been serious problems with both.
I simply don't trust government or their agencies. And I don't trust their mouthpieces for honest info.
From NCI's website: Accurate, up-to-date, comprehensive cancer information from the U.S. government's principal agency for cancer research.
Yeah. I'll trust them.
The cause of the increase is probably due to the invention of the “autism spectrum,” which means all sorts of things that didn’t used to be diagnosed as autism now are. A diagnosis of autism also turns on the money machine.
I understand the skepticism about Gardisil. I also am not comfortable with the mandatory Hepatitis-B vaccine. I don't think either are necessary, but I believe both are safe.
Understand this, people who are in the vaccines cause autism camp are aligning themselves with the irrational left on this. It is the most liberal area of the US that are abandoning vaccines. It was Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd, and other big liberals jumping on the autism bandwagon. I have an open mind here, show me some study or science that shows a link. This so closely mirrors the global warming fraud it is scary - right down to the fake science originating in the UK.
this is some looney stuff
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