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To: RogerFGay
The anti-federalists also got a lot wrong.

Patrick Henry - “The rights of conscience, trial by jury, liberty of the press, all your immunities and franchises, all pretensions to human rights and privileges, are rendered insecure, if not lost, by this change, so loudly talked of by some, and inconsiderately by others.”

Also, the necessity of a virtuous electorate to the continuance of our republic was widely discussed at the time. An immoral people will elect dirtbags. We've got the government we deserve, not the one designed by our Framers.

8 posted on 05/22/2010 4:08:59 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Support and defend our beloved Constitution)
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To: Jacquerie

We now live in a color coded anti-white male feminized society that has been rubber stamped by the Supreme Disappointment. A Constitution not followed is worse than no Constitution at all. This state of affairs breeds contempt for the government in the intelligent, and a sentimental belief in the phony protections it was supposed to have in the weak minded. As such, the Constitution now provides a fig leaf for the naked aggression of the socialist statist agenda.


9 posted on 05/22/2010 4:16:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jacquerie

“The anti-federalists also got a lot wrong.”

Exactly!! The US Constitution is a brilliant document. It works well....when followed.


27 posted on 05/22/2010 5:53:43 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Jacquerie; central_va
Thanks for the ping central_va.

Jacquerie: The anti-federalists also got a lot wrong.

Could you point out a few or is that an oblique reference to the Articles of Confederation? Does it strike you as ironic that many of the anti's arguments are the same ones we hear from consertatives today? Even so, revisionist histories have left us with little meat to actually chew on when considering the pros and cons of the Articles. Historians would have us believe the Articles were a complete and total failure, which is patently false. Did the Federalists, who of course wanted an overbearing NATIONAL government hoodwink the anti delegates into believing the convention had been called to tweak the Articles? Can you say "budding progressives"???

46 posted on 05/22/2010 10:40:55 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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