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To: absolootezer0

The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.

What’s true, an ATF spokeswoman told FOXNews.com, in a clarification of the statistic used by her own agency’s assistant director, “is that over 90 percent of the traced firearms originate from the U.S.”

But a large percentage of the guns recovered in Mexico do not get sent back to the U.S. for tracing, because it is obvious from their markings that they do not come from the U.S.

“Not every weapon seized in Mexico has a serial number on it that would make it traceable, and the U.S. effort to trace weapons really only extends to weapons that have been in the U.S. market,” Matt Allen, special agent of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), told FOX News.

In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced — and of those, 90 percent — 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover — were found to have come from the U.S.

But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.

In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.

So, if not from the U.S., where do they come from? There are a variety of sources:

— The Black Market. Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.

— Russian crime organizations. Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking drugs and arms in Mexico.

- South America. During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and drug trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.

— Asia. According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.

— The Mexican Army. More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

— Guatemala. U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and drugs, including most of America’s cocaine, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican drug cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.


16 posted on 05/21/2010 5:02:51 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: maddog55

Machine guns are so difficult to obtain in the US that it is much easier to smuggle them in from other countries.


36 posted on 05/21/2010 5:31:44 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: maddog55

Thanks for an excellent educational post.

But the bottom line is that if the President of Mexico does not like what is happening on the border, all he has to do is close it from his side.

I would have told him to close the border or close his mouth.


43 posted on 05/21/2010 5:41:20 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: maddog55
Bookmarking. Thanks for posting!

Myth of 90 percent articles

51 posted on 05/21/2010 6:15:05 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: maddog55
— The Mexican Army. More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

That would probably be the FNC, not the M-16, except that the Mexicans formerly used the H&K G-3, and are switching over to a locally designed 5.56x45 rifle, the FX-05 Xiuhcoatl, based on the H&K G36.

58 posted on 05/21/2010 7:54:51 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: maddog55

The mexican goverment(drug cartel) does not like the fact that Americans might be able to resist mexican gangs(terriost) as they spread their influence across the border. It will be much easier if Americans are disarmed first. And obama is more than willing to help. I’am sure he will be rewarded by the mexican ‘goverment’. In my opinion every American citizen should be armed (m-16’s) to resist the mexican invasion on our southern border by armed terriost(mexican gangs)


59 posted on 05/21/2010 8:06:52 AM PDT by omegadawn
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