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How to move cheaply out of COBOL
Federal News Radio ^ | May 19, 2010 | Dorothy Ramienski

Posted on 05/20/2010 6:37:29 PM PDT by 10Ring

Many federal agencies are using machines that are running software developed 25 to 35 years ago, and they're still going strong.

These machines are using the COmmon Business-Oriented Language (COBOL) to get things done.

Invented in 1959 by Naval officer Grace Hopper, COBOL is still a prevalent force throughout the federal government.

There are still about 200 billion lines of the code in live operation, and 75 percent of business-critical applications and 90 percent of financial transactions use it.

(Excerpt) Read more at federalnewsradio.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cobol
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It's a very secure, easy-to-learn language, but it's running into some problems now that the Obama administration has issued modernization initiatives such as the Open Government Directive.

As with everything Obama tries to fix...

1 posted on 05/20/2010 6:37:29 PM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring

I heard they were going to hire a bunch of gay programmers and rewrite it all in LISP.


2 posted on 05/20/2010 6:39:11 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: 10Ring

Obama....well, I guess I’m clinging to my God, guns and COBOL now!


3 posted on 05/20/2010 6:44:19 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: 10Ring

This article is an advertisement for Microfocus.

Don’t worry. Obama may destroy the USA, but COBOL will survive.


4 posted on 05/20/2010 6:44:21 PM PDT by devere
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To: 10Ring
Why move when you can get Visual COBOL?

(no I'm going to have nightmares)

5 posted on 05/20/2010 6:48:14 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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When does the backward compatibility thing become counterproductive?

Second time today I've had to say this: "Take off and nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure."

God Bless Adm Hopper, but Cobol is past it's 'use by' date.

Much to my chagrin, I find that I can run Cobol programs on this relatively new linux laptop.

/johnny

6 posted on 05/20/2010 6:49:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: devere

When I saw the word ‘COBOL’ it reminded of a computer language from way back in college. So I started reading the thread to see what COBOL means today. LOL. Unbelievable that it still exists.


7 posted on 05/20/2010 6:50:12 PM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: 10Ring

It would be nice if an article about moving cheaply out of COBOL described how to move cheaply out of COBOL.


8 posted on 05/20/2010 6:50:38 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Nervous Tick

Sounds like the PROLOG to a good story.
Fortran still rules


9 posted on 05/20/2010 6:50:56 PM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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COBOL is still a prevalent force throughout the federal government

No wonder all the panicked scare of Y2K, which barely affected private business' but absolutely TERRORIZED government

10 posted on 05/20/2010 6:51:13 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Mr_Moonlight; 10Ring

11 posted on 05/20/2010 6:54:04 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: 10Ring

Is COBOL’s brother FORTRAN still around?


12 posted on 05/20/2010 6:56:40 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: RadiationRomeo

Unbelievable that an old language such as English still exists;why hasn’t something newer taken its place?


13 posted on 05/20/2010 7:08:40 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“When does the backward compatibility thing become counterproductive?”

When it’s more expensive than doing something completely new. Which is seldom.

The usual rule for business applications is to rewrite them only to incorporate significant business enhancements and changes; not just to use more current technology.


14 posted on 05/20/2010 7:09:41 PM PDT by devere
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To: Nervous Tick
I heard they were going to hire a bunch of gay programmers and rewrite it all in LISP.

Well, now I've got to wipe my screen. ;-D

15 posted on 05/20/2010 7:10:45 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Kieri

We still use FORTRAN (one of the biggest companies in USA). COBOL is a better language for sure, one of the early great computer languages, structured data, subroutines, data typing. FORTRAN is a little better than assembly.


16 posted on 05/20/2010 7:13:01 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: 10Ring

I think its a real shame that Turing never caught on. It had the nicest, most common sense, syntax of any programing language I’ve seen.


17 posted on 05/20/2010 7:14:58 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Kieri
Is COBOL’s brother FORTRAN still around?

FORTRAN isn't much like COBOL; however, it is still around and going strong. Again, it is used mostly in government circles. FORTRAN is a number-crunching langauge.

Grace's team developed this one as well. I worked for a lady who was one of "Grace's girls". Charlene was a remarkable programmer and a good manager.

Microsoft's recent excursion into the .NET crap has rendered Microsoft products entirely unsuitable for number crunching, even on today's blistering fast machines. FORTRAN and C will continue to be the "Kings of Computation" simply because they are compiled and optimized.

I prefer C or C++ to any language.

18 posted on 05/20/2010 7:17:06 PM PDT by GingisK
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...Obama administration has issued modernization initiatives such as the Open Government Directive.

What's he going to do, nationalize all the working storage?

-PJ

19 posted on 05/20/2010 7:17:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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Wow, like others I saw the word COBOL and it brought me way back. My favorite though was Pascal.
20 posted on 05/20/2010 7:17:44 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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