She makes an excellent point but the Tea Party does not care about the GOP or the RATS, they care only about credible conservatives and cut-spending constitutionalists.
There were 38 dems that voted against Obamacare. If those dems are pro-life, pro-gun, pro-tax cut, anti-Obamacare, anti-socialist, pro-spending cuts, pro-Constitution, then....
I don’t care if there are 38 X 10 such dems in Congress.
I would rather have 435 Zell Miller democrats in Congress than any of the go-along-to-get-along RINOs.
From my understanding, the candidate that won in PA-12 is a strong conservative, what else matters? Oh, committee chairs, yes....well if the TP can get enough conservatives in Congress, those chairs are going to be chaired by conservatives, so what’s the big deal about having GOP sellouts in those chairs? We had that for 12 years and it got us Obama.
You just don’t get how the game is played. There may be 5 honest conservative Democrats. (That’s pushing it. The last one in my book was Virgil Goode, who became a Republican). The Blue Dogs have a chain around their neck and lick the hand of their master Pelosi. Their first vote is to make her Speaker. Their second is to enshrine members of the Progressive Caucus in leaderhip posts. When actual legislation come up, they do what they are told. Pelosi or House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn count the vote on any piece of legislation. If they are short, they buy votes. If they have a healthy majority on a liberal bill, they count off how many Democrats they can safely lose and tell that number of blue dogs they can vote according to the needs of their district. To be blunt, unless the left loses a vote, the Blue Dogs are just Democrats who lie to their consituents.
Those DemocRATS that voted against DeathCare had the express permission of Plastic Pelosi to do so. They do not have the collective spine to stand up to the leftists in their party hellbent on America’s destruction.
Balderdash!
Those Dems who falsely claim to be conservative do so just to get elected!!
They ALL would have voted for the HC bill if Pelosi needed them.
Every single one of them will vote for Pelosi for speaker, and they all will vote for cap&trade, amnesty, tax increases.....and none of them will vote to REPEAL the healthcare bill.
They are none of the above. Once Pelosi had her votes, she released the "Blue Dogs" to vote against the bill. May as well replace these fake conservative Dems with real conservative Republicans or Tea Party members, eh?
“Oh, committee chairs, yes....well if the TP can get enough conservatives in Congress, those chairs are going to be chaired by conservatives, so what’s the big deal about having GOP sellouts in those chairs? We had that for 12 years and it got us Obama.”
That’s gonna leave a mark. The painful truth hurts: some Dems were and are more conservative than the RINWADs* that were in power until 2008 and who still run the RNC.
(*Republican In Name, Word, and Deed)
The problem is the MONEY, MONEY MONEY! The money for reelection comes from the PARTY. So once one is elected, no matter what they say to get there, the money for them to stay there, to stay in a position that has immense benefits including a 200K pension for life, comes from the PARTY.
That's an extortion that's hard to turn down, really for any of us. That's the leverage Nancy Pelosi has.
But that is NO argument for Republicans. Rather it is argument to throw out every careerist politician, (the ones who do what's needed to keep themselves in the money and position), and in cases like this elect those who have no party connection.
Is it not obvious that we have come to the point where a third party is the only way out? That's why the Tea Party.
"the candidate that won in PA-12 is a strong conservative," that candidate is a "strong" conservative until faced with the decision between his conservative principles and losing his Washington DC elitist privileges. That backroom extortion goes on every day in Washington DC.
The American federal government which has taken over the economy and even social behavior of the population has devolved into one as corrupt as any on the planet. And it is largely due through PARTY politics. So that every established party needs to be upset.
Johnny Suntrade
I believe rmlew nailed it here. Remember Bart Stupak and all his supposed opposition to Federally funded abortion? When all the Democrat games played out, it turned out that he never intended to oppose Federally funded abortion in the Health Care Hijack, and he brought enough votes with him to ensure it passed.
So, unless you enjoy and fully expect to be played again and again like Stupak and the 'Rats played a lot of people, you have to assume any Democrat whatsoever will cave to the agenda of the far Leftist party leadership, whether by prearrangement, or under some sort of extreme pressure/blackmail you're never likely to hear the details about.
problem is that nearly all pseudo-conservative “blue dog” Democrats go party line anytime their vote is needed by the socialists
they play a two-faced game of pretending to have a more conservative outlook to win seats that otherwise might not go D. but if Pelosi/Obozo needs them the socialists will get the vote
NOT that I have any use for RINOs either....
Nothing else really matters -- AS LONG AS he wasn't actually lying through his teeth.
Problem is: he's still a Democrat, and Democrats have an almost revered tradition of spending their campaigns lying through their teeth, then spending their time in office sticking it to people who thought they were actually telling the truth. And it doesn't help that these Democrats also feel some maniacal need to laugh all the way to the next election.
What do Conservatives get out of the deal? Raspberries. From BOTH sides of the aisle.
Completely agree.