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Sarah Palin's Political Bandwagon Is wobbling Under The Weight of Contradictions [Fiorina Backlash?]
Telegraph(UK) ^ | May 15th 2010 | Alex Spillius

Posted on 05/15/2010 1:30:58 PM PDT by Steelfish

Sarah Palin's Political Bandwagon Is wobbling Under The Weight of Contradictions The Sarah Palin phenomenon is finally beginning to fade as contradictions mount up, says Alex Spillius in Washington

Alex Spillius 15 May 2010

We are seeing the first signs of wobble on the Sarah Palin bandwagon. This may seem a strange thing to say about a political superstar who has earned at least $12 million in the past 18 months from a publishing advance, personal appearance fees and a television punditry contract, not to forget a reality show about life in Alaska.

Palin is such a boon to the struggling book world that her second opus, America by Heart - Reflection on Family, Faith and Flag, can already be ordered in advance even though publication is six months away. A return to the number one spot on the best seller list surely awaits.

But other indices are proving less kind to the former Alaska governor. According to a recent poll more Alaskans than not think the presidency should not form the next chapter of Palin's extraordinary story, while 45 per cent gave her a negative personal rating. When John McCain plucked her from obscurity to be his Republican running mate in the 2008 campaign, her approval rating at home was 80 per cent, the highest of any governor in the country.

Now even a poll of Tea Party supporters, her most ardent fans, showed that a majority wouldn't vote for her if she ran for president in 2012. It is not just that the faithful are beginning to question her readiness for the White House.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chuckdevore; devore; mcpalin; mittbots; onepercenters; palin; palinforfiorina; palinfreeperping; sarahbandwagon; sarahpalin
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To: marron
You have managed to state her postion perfectly.

I love Sarah Palin, not because she would make a great POTUS. but because she so clearly states the consevative values. I have a SP 2012 bumper sticker, but I believe that she may yet still be lacking in the credentials necessary for the job.

We need to get control of the media and establish our own agenda. Not platform bu agenda to dismatle this socialist state.

141 posted on 05/15/2010 4:42:53 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: mono
Ask the soon to be former GOP Senator Bennet about that one!

Sorry, but that is an Apples to Tires type of comparison.

In other words, there is no comparison.

Bennett chose to support full on amnesty, Nationalized Health Care, TARP, among many others.

That was not an example of "Eating their own"; it was an example of cleansing the party of someone who could not be counted on to vote in a realiably conservative manner.

Instead, we could count on him to vote just a little to the right of a Democrat.
142 posted on 05/15/2010 4:43:10 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Oh sure, the demented sheep candidate fits right into that

Palin was criticized on her Facebook page for endorsing Carly by many of the people that support her. How is that being sheep? “

Are you being Obtuse???????? Carly should not be part of your coalition that you spoke of in that post I was responding to. Read her comments just a few weeks after 9/11. Carly is not an example of a Republican that I want in any coalition and Palin’s support deserves criticism.

And again, Palin DID NOT HAVE TO COME FORWARD AND SUPPORT THAT RACIST STEELE. She didn’t have to say a word if she didn’t want to criticize him.


143 posted on 05/15/2010 4:43:30 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SaraJohnson

I am voting for her. Do you have somebody better?


144 posted on 05/15/2010 4:44:21 PM PDT by GregB (Illegal aliens are put in jail in mexico lets do one better and send illegals back!)
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To: newfreep

I have her on my Palin haters list!!!


145 posted on 05/15/2010 4:45:56 PM PDT by GregB (Illegal aliens are put in jail in mexico lets do one better and send illegals back!)
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To: stripes1776
Since you don't like that comparison

I didn't say I didn't like it. I said the comparison is specious. Which means it's an illogical, false comparison to make.

let's look at Newt Gingrich. He has held elected office. He has an important role to play in the Republican Party. But now his role is not in elected office. His role is as a speaker, writer, and advisor.

Still not the same. Newt is a former professor who has more of an analytical mind-frame than Palin. He was born to do what he's doing now rather than actually doing the job, which didn't work out too well for him. Palin is a workerbee, citizen politician. She's hitting the lecture circuit and writing books out of both enriching her family and making a difference in the country, as opposed to helping the Republican Party advance.

Palin had accomplishments as governor of Alaska, but they were modest.

Passing a pipeline deal that was on hiatus for 30 years is not a "modest" accomplishment. It's unprecedented. Sweeping out corruption in the state and rejecting stimulus funds were not modest either.

And those accomplishments came by close cooperation with Democrats in the Alaska legislature.

So what? Again, would it have been better for her to work with corrupt Republicans? The key thing though is: Did she compromise or yield her conservatism to them?

No one in the conservative establishment is complaining about Palin making money on the speaking circuit or from a book she wrote.

They are. My point is that liberals ran her out office but now are complaining about the money she's making and being in the news all the time. If they had left her alone, she would have quietly finished her term and probably went back to private life. Establishment conservatives are guilty because they view her as a celebrity and disregard her accomplishments in the 14 years she has held public office.

146 posted on 05/15/2010 4:46:55 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: OwatonnaNative
Reagan did that all on his own.

Not exactly, the convention was brokered, sometime late in the night, Reagan went down to break the deadlock and endorse bush. Someone put the arm twist on Reagan, we will probably never know who.

147 posted on 05/15/2010 4:47:27 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Boy my Palin haters list really grew on this thread!!!


148 posted on 05/15/2010 4:49:52 PM PDT by GregB (Illegal aliens are put in jail in mexico lets do one better and send illegals back!)
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To: SoConPubbie

He is not my Senator, so I really have no horse in the race and its a safe GOP seat anyway, BUT he had an 84 percent conservative rating. If thats not good enough, and Im not saying it is, then there are a lot more GOP Senators that need purging.


149 posted on 05/15/2010 4:52:21 PM PDT by mono
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To: Russ
So if she doesn’t belong in public office then I don’t see why it should concern you or anyone else who she chooses to endorse.

If it doesn't concern me or anyone else, why are you commenting?

150 posted on 05/15/2010 5:03:58 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Palin was criticized on her Facebook page for endorsing Carly by many of the people that support her. How is that being sheep?

Their argument falls flat right there. If endorsements make Sarah or any other conservative politician 'questionable or unworthy' then they're all 'questionable and unworthy' so maybe we should look to by-standers who never endorse!

After all, it's endorsements that win elections, not the candidates themselves, right? /s

151 posted on 05/15/2010 5:07:15 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: RummyChick
Just after 9/11

Where's the controversy? As the CEO of a trans-national corporation, she should have said terrorists should be hunted down and shot? The comments that she's concerned about the safety of HP Middle-Eastern employees means she's pro-Islamofascist? I see a general business speech that mostly all corporations gave shortly after 9/11. Fail.

Over the past dozen years, Hewlett-Packard has sold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of printers and other products to Iran through a Middle East distributor, sidestepping a U.S. ban on trade with the country.

The policy was in place prior to Carly becoming the HP CEO.

In 1997, two years after President Clinton banned trade with Iran, HP struck a partnership with a newly formed company in Dubai to sell its products in the Middle East. At the time, the company, called Redington Gulf, had only three employees and its sole purpose was to "sell HP supplies to the Iran market," says a history on Redington Gulf's website and Rajesh Chandragiri, the administrative manager in Redington Gulf's Dubai office.

HP uses third party to sell printers in Iran

Carly became CEO in 1999.

And likes to work with the shakedown artist

Lots of businesses worked with Jesse Jackson and helped his organization. Are you going to boycott Coca-Cola, Procter and Gamble, etc.? Key difference: She was the CEO of a corporation, not a public official steering taxpayer dollars to him. Will she advance his interests as a Senator? No.

152 posted on 05/15/2010 5:07:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: Steelfish

Palin would do well to discontinue the questionable endorsements, and concentrate on attacking the leftist agenda.
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In the case of Fiorina, she seems to have spurred Devore to try harder. God knows what he could have done if he worked this hard from the beginning.
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153 posted on 05/15/2010 5:11:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
So what? Again, would it have been better for her to work with corrupt Republicans? The key thing though is: Did she compromise or yield her conservatism to them?

She yielded to her opposition when she resigned. She is a nice woman, but she has demonstrated that she can't take the political heat while in office as governor.

My point is that liberals ran her out office...

No body ran Palin out of office. She ran away from a political fight on her own volition.

She is a nice woman. I wish her well. She has a place in the Republican Party. But that place is not in office.

154 posted on 05/15/2010 5:11:57 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: RummyChick
Carly should not be part of your coalition that you spoke of in that post I was responding to.

Why not? When the real conservative is lagging in the polls and can't get traction in liberal CA, what should you suppose to do? You make the best out of a bad situation.

Palin DID NOT HAVE TO COME FORWARD AND SUPPORT THAT RACIST STEELE.

Has it ever occurred to you that Palin is contemplating a run for POTUS and will need the backing of the party chair? Why would she attack someone who controls the infrastructure of the GOP?

155 posted on 05/15/2010 5:15:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: mono
He is not my Senator, so I really have no horse in the race and its a safe GOP seat anyway, BUT he had an 84 percent conservative rating. If thats not good enough, and Im not saying it is, then there are a lot more GOP Senators that need purging.

Four Points:

1. It depends on the organization providing the rating
2. Senators are famous for not voting on an issue if they think it will adversely affect their rating, see John McCain and his ACU rating and look at the votes he did not vote on. His rating would have dropped an additional 20 to 30 points if he had actually voted his stated position on some of the votes the ACU used to rate politicions in the Senate.
3. A lot of damage can be done in that 16% as can be seen by his votes for TARP, Amnesty, etc.
4. You are right, there are a lot more Senators that need purging.
156 posted on 05/15/2010 5:17:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: stripes1776; Extremely Extreme Extremist
No body ran Palin out of office. She ran away from a political fight on her own volition.

She is a nice woman. I wish her well. She has a place in the Republican Party. But that place is not in office.


She had 20+ junk lawsuits filed against her in rapid succession and they were filing against even as she was resigning.

She was over $500,000 in debt defending the lawsuits

She and her staff were spending 80% of their time on preparing for and defending against the self-same junk lawsuits.

She was unable to attend the business she was elected to do as Governor.

So tell me Sherlock what you would have chosen to do?
157 posted on 05/15/2010 5:21:20 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Oh really??? Show me another corporation that said what she did at the end of that speech ..just a few weeks after 9/11

And while you are at it..show me one that has said something like:

“May the wisdom of the Prophet Muhammad inspire us this week, and may his wisdom guide the Arab world as it works together to write a new story of the ages for our time. “


158 posted on 05/15/2010 5:21:40 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: stripes1776; Extremely Extreme Extremist
She is a nice woman. I wish her well. She has a place in the Republican Party. But that place is not in office.

Get used to being wrong, and probably disappointed.

You are going to have to call her Madame President starting in January 2013 and lasting for 8 years.
159 posted on 05/15/2010 5:22:35 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: stripes1776
She yielded to her opposition when she resigned. She is a nice woman, but she has demonstrated that she can't take the political heat while in office as governor.

Get the facts. Alaska's new ethics law contained a loophole that allowed anyone to bring about any allegation with the burden of proof on the public office. The state or any administration couldn't intervene on behalf of Palin, which means she had to pay the costs HERSELF. Palin racked up a $500,000 legal bill defending herself from the lawsuits.

If she would have "stayed and taken the heat," she would have been flat-broke and the lamest of lame ducks and totally taken out of any 2012 political consideration. Not to mention that Alaska was wasting millions looking into these false charges instead of using the money to benefit the state.

Nobody ran Palin out of office. She ran away from a political fight on her own volition.

The only alternative was for Palin to resign. The harassment and false charges did indeed drive her out of power.

She has a place in the Republican Party. But that place is not in office

Typical, pat on the head thinking. She should cheerlead and raise money but forget about running for the top spot. I vehemently disagree. I believe that Palin is suited to be President, and many others will agree with me.

160 posted on 05/15/2010 5:23:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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