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To: cricket

Yes, it’s free speech, but it’s also contemptible. There are better ways to make a point than to use gay porn images. We conservatives tend to oppose that kind of thing when it’s directed at Christians.


51 posted on 05/14/2010 7:58:40 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
Yes, it’s free speech, but it’s also contemptible. There are better ways to make a point than to use gay porn images. We conservatives tend to oppose that kind of thing when it’s directed at Christians.

What is contemptible is the arrogance of shutting down 'free speech' as are their continued promises to behead Vik for his exercising such. Was this provocative, sure. . .but the Muslims here, depending on which test you apply; either 'fail' the Western Values challenge; or rise to the challenge and show exactly, who/what they are: totalitarian miscreants.

Meantime, the Muslim List of 'Contemptibles' grows - and on their list is any and all those who determinedly attempt to give voice to truth on behalf of an enlightened Freedom.

As for 'provocative'. . .a non-Mulism articulating the name of Muhammad - is provocative. The very idea of Christians and Jews, is provocative. Their 'real' presence much more so, of course. Western values are provocative. 'Free speech' when it violates an ;one' of a gazillion Muslim sensitivities - a majority of which speak to an embedded hypocrisy - IS provocative. The Pope is provocative; as are all Catholics (more so, than the average Christian, who by their Faith, regularly lose their heads to Islamists.) The American flag is provocative. Crosses are provocative. Americans are provocative. All symbols of any of the aforementioned, are provocative. The bottom line, of course, that so vexes these people is contained in one word: FREEDOM!

(And whether the 'slight' is big, small; real or imagined; their response is the same.)

Meantime, it is 'we' who are continually provoked - or should feel so - by the relentless assaults made by those who embrace a stone-age rationale and imagine it superior to moral, reasoned thinking. We should be more than insensed by their intentions and by their daily provocations - by way of a degraded modus operandi used against all who do not believe in their 'authority'; nor adhere to their beliefs and/or 'refuse to'.

In this case, their 'right to be offended' does not supercede the rights of Vik to shine a light of truth on an otherwise, closed aspect of contradictory, Muslim behaviors. Do not think this was simply a 'gay porn' film or issue. Do not know if this film was - or was not - related to the Frontline piece that was presented on PBS (not to be 're-aired', mind you): "Dancing Boys of Afghanistan" ; which addresses a history of what is essentially a 'slave trade' of boys to serve what are the 'religious' proclivities of so inclined Muslim males.

/Clearly, these Muslims knew what it was; and rather than stand outside - and protest peacefully - they took the low road and were rewarded(!) for their efforts!/

Whatever the case; Vik is challenging/provoking not only the Muslims who oppose him; but as well, he is challenging the rest of us, to wake up and resist, refuse and denounce every Muslim, 'Allah akbar' call to submission.

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'Dancing Boys Of Afghanistan': Bacha Bazi Documentary Exposes ...Apr 22, 2010 ... PBS's Frontline has posted their latest piece online, and it is both fascinating and horrifying. "The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan" exposes ... www.huffingtonpost.com/.../dancing-boys-of-afghanist_n_548428.html - Cached FRONTLINE: the dancing boys of afghanistan | PBSApr 20, 2010 ... It's an ancient practice, secretly revived -- young boys sold by their families to 'entertain' wealthy businessmen and warlords. www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/ - Cached - Similar FRONTLINE: the dancing boys of afghanistan: watch the full program ...Apr 20, 2010 ... In The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan, Afghan journalist Najibullah Quraishi (Behind Taliban Lines) returns to his native land to expose an ... www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/view/ - Cached Frontline: The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan < PopMattersApr 20, 2010 ... Money allows a former mujahideen commander to do pretty much what he wants with young dancing boys in Afghanistan, and even to talk about it ... www.popmatters.com/.../124334-frontline-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan - Cached Afghan boy dancers sexually abused by former warlords | ReutersBut in northern Afghanistan, former warlords and mujahideen commanders have taken that a step further with competitions for their dancing boys. ... www.reuters.com/article/idUSISL1848920071119 - Cached - Similar

58 posted on 05/15/2010 5:19:57 AM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show)
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Ok. . .this IS bugging me. More important than the text; a man's name matters - particularly in this case. (corrected): (Yardstick: Yes, it’s free speech, but it’s also contemptible. There are better ways to make a point than to use gay porn images. We conservatives tend to oppose that kind of thing when it’s directed at Christians.)

What is contemptible is the arrogance of shutting down 'free speech' as are their continued promises to behead Lar Vilks for his exercising such. Was this provocative, sure. . .but the Muslims here, depending on which test you apply; either 'fail' the Western Values challenge; or rise to the challenge and show exactly, who/what they are: totalitarian miscreants. Meantime, the Muslim List of 'Contemptibles' grows - and on their list is any and all those who determinedly attempt to give voice to truth on behalf of an enlightened Freedom. As for 'provocative'. . .a non-Mulism articulating the name of Muhammad - is provocative. The very idea of Christians and Jews, is provocative. Their 'real' presence much more so, of course. Western values are provocative. 'Free speech' when it violates an ;one' of a gazillion Muslim sensitivities - a majority of which speak to an embedded hypocrisy - IS provocative. The Pope is provocative; as are all Catholics (more so, than the average Christian, who by their Faith, regularly lose their heads to Islamists.) The American flag is provocative. Crosses are provocative. Americans are provocative. All symbols of any of the aforementioned, are provocative. The bottom line, of course, that so vexes these people is contained in one word: FREEDOM! (And whether the 'slight' is big, small; real or imagined; their response is the same.) Meantime, it is 'we' who are continually provoked - or should feel so - by the relentless assaults made by those who embrace a stone-age rationale and imagine it superior to moral, reasoned thinking. We should be more than insensed by their intentions and by their daily provocations - by way of a degraded modus operandi used against all who do not believe in their 'authority'; nor adhere to their beliefs and/or refuse to. In this case, their 'right to be offended' does not supercede the rights of Vilks to shine a light of truth on an otherwise, closed aspect of contradictory, Muslim behaviors. Do not think this was simply a 'gay porn' film or issue. Do not know if this film was - or was not - related to the Frontline piece that was presented on PBS (not to be 're-aired', mind you): "Dancing Boys of Afghanistan" ; which addresses a history of what is essentially a 'slave trade' of boys to serve what are the 'religious' proclivities of so inclined Muslim males. /Clearly, these Muslims knew what it was; and rather than stand outside - and protest peacefully - they took the low road and were rewarded(!) for their efforts!/ Whatever the case; Vilks is challenging/provoking not only the Muslims who oppose him; but as well, he is challenging the rest of us, to wake up and resist, refuse and denounce every Muslim, 'Allah akbar' call to submission. *********** 'Dancing Boys Of Afghanistan': Bacha Bazi Documentary Exposes ...Apr 22, 2010 ... PBS's Frontline has posted their latest piece online, and it is both fascinating and horrifying. "The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan" exposes ... www.huffingtonpost.com/.../dancing-boys-of-afghanist_n_548428.html - Cached FRONTLINE: the dancing boys of afghanistan | PBSApr 20, 2010 ... It's an ancient practice, secretly revived -- young boys sold by their families to 'entertain' wealthy businessmen and warlords. www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/ - Cached - Similar FRONTLINE: the dancing boys of afghanistan: watch the full program ...Apr 20, 2010 ... In The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan, Afghan journalist Najibullah Quraishi (Behind Taliban Lines) returns to his native land to expose an ... www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/view/ - Cached Frontline: The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan < PopMattersApr 20, 2010 ... Money allows a former mujahideen commander to do pretty much what he wants with young dancing boys in Afghanistan, and even to talk about it ... www.popmatters.com/.../124334-frontline-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan - Cached Afghan boy dancers sexually abused by former warlords | ReutersBut in northern Afghanistan, former warlords and mujahideen commanders have taken that a step further with competitions for their dancing boys. ... www.reuters.com/article/idUSISL1848920071119 - Cached - Similar

60 posted on 05/15/2010 5:37:43 AM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show)
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To: Yardstick

omg. ..on last post. Can only say ‘sleep matters’/sigh.


61 posted on 05/15/2010 5:38:53 AM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show)
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To: Yardstick

Yay!!!! One sensible person on the thread.

It seems like anything the Muslims do gets our knee-jerk condemnation. As badly as they behaved, and as backward as they showed themselves to be (”I told him to stop! Why didn’t he stop!”), the fact is that the film was guaranteed to incite a strong reaction.

The Muslims went over the top with it, and I have NO CLUE why they were there anyway. If someone was showing a gay porn Jesus movie, I think the best way to handle it is to insure the theater is EMPTY by nobody going to see the piece of dung.

Just another way the Muslims are backward, I think. Rather than stay far away, they went there to get in the film makers face.

Bad behavior all around.


69 posted on 05/15/2010 1:54:49 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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