Footage of Polish air crash emerges claiming to show Russian-speaking men shooting survivors

Daily Mail U.K. ^ | May 13, 2010 | Will Stewart

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Yushchenko: Russia blocking poisoning probe
By Bonnie Malkin and agencies, September 12, 2007

Mr Yushchenko before and after the poisoning

"Mr [Viktor] Yushchenko, a pro-European politician who wanted to bring his country out of Russia's shadow, fell seriously ill on September 6, 2004 as he was competing in presidential elections against a pro-Moscow candidate, Viktor Yanukovich, now prime minister.

After months of tests in an Austrian clinic, it was determined that he had ingested a massive amount of the poison dioxin.

Although he survived, his face was left bloated and pockmarked, and he has had to undergo regular treatment to rid his body of the toxin.

In an interview with Le Figaro he said he believed the dioxin used to disfigure him was made in a Russian lab.

Mr Yushchenko did not directly accuse the Russian government of being behind his poisoning, but he did say he had 'practically put all the pieces together' and the attempt against him 'was not a private action'. ..."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1562838/Yushchenko-Russia-blocking-poisoning-probe.html
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"Viktor Andriyovych Yushchenko (born February 23, 1954) [was] the third and [former] President of Ukraine". He took office on January 23, 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko
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(Ukraine) Hunt starts for Yushchenko's poisoner:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1478922/Hunt-starts-for-Yushchenko%27s-poisoner.html
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pro-Moscow Viktor Yanukovich, new president of the Ukraine

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there’s a great deal more reason to suspect the Russians of such a thing — think polonium, for instance

From Heritage.org:

Putin's Poison?
by Peter Brookes, November 27, 2006
The death of former Russian spy, Alexander Litvinenko, last week from radioactive Polonium-210 poisoning is the latest in a series of politically motivated attacks on the outspoken opponents of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed112706a.cfm
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Blowing up Russia: The Secret Plot to Bring Back KGB Terror
by Alexander Litvinenko, Yuri Felshtinsky, Geoffrey Andrews and Co (Translator)

Synopsis: Blowing Up Russia contains the allegations of ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko against his former spymasters in Moscow which led to his being murdered in London in November 2006. In the book he and historian Yuri Felshtinsky detail how since 1999 the Russian secret service has been hatching a plot to return to the terror that was the hallmark of the KGB. Vividly written and based on Litvinenko's 20 years of insider knowledge of Russian spy campaigns, Blowing Up Russia describes how the successor of the KGB fabricated terrorist attacks and launched a war. Writing about Litvinenko, the surviving co-author recounts how the banning of the book in Russia led to three earlier deaths.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Blowing-up-Russia/Alexander-Litvinenko/e/9781594032011
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Alexander Litvinenko, the former Russian security agent fighting for his life in a UK hospital after allegedly being poisoned, has been a fierce critic of Vladimir Putin since before he became president in 2000.

Mr Litvinenko is thought to have been close to journalist Anna Politkovskaya, another opponent of the Kremlin who was shot dead last month, and said recently he was investigating her murder. It was after being handed documents apparently relating to the case that he was taken ill more than two weeks ago.

But he is perhaps best known for a book in which he alleges that agents co-ordinated the 1999 apartment block bombings in Russia that killed more than 300 people. He now appears to have fallen victim to the kind of plots which he wrote about.

Arrest

Mr Litvinenko, 43, first became a security agent under the Soviet-era KGB, rising to the rank of lieutenant-colonel in its later incarnations.

He is reported to have fallen out with Vladimir Putin, then head of the security service, in the late 1990s, after failing in attempts to crack down on corruption within the organisation. In 1998, he first came to prominence by exposing an alleged plot to assassinate the then powerful tycoon Boris Berezovsky, who himself now lives in self-imposed exile in the UK. He was subsequently arrested on charges of abusing his office and spent nine months in a remand centre before being acquitted.

In 1999 he wrote Blowing up Russia: Terror from Within, in which he accused the current Russian security service, the FSB, of carrying out several apartment house bombings in 1999 that killed more than 300 people. The attacks, which Moscow blamed on Chechen rebels, helped swing public opinion behind Russia's second war in the breakaway republic.

Petrol bombs

Complaining of persecution, in 2000 Mr Litvinenko fled to the UK where he sought, and was granted, asylum. But after settling in an unnamed London suburb, the former spy continued to behave as if on the run, constantly changing his contact details. The Times newspaper reported that over the summer someone tried to push a pram loaded with petrol bombs at his front door. Appearing alongside high-profile opponents of President Putin, he has continued to make allegations about his former bosses. Perhaps most notably, he alleged that al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri was trained by the FSB in Dagestan in the years before 9/11.

http://www.cicentre.com/Documents/litvinenko.html

[mick]

You are absolutely right......the sounds are probably rounds going off from the Polish security weapons in the fire....people love this sort of crap......plus the video itself shows nobody doing anything but walking around.

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Symposium: To Kill a Russian Journalist
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | November 17, 2006

The murder of internationally renowned Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya in early October 2006 was yet another troubling sign of Russia’s retreat into its totalitarian past. Today Frontpage Symposium has gathered a distinguished panel of experts to discuss why Anna Politkovskaya was killed and what the tragic loss of her life symbolizes about the direction in which Vladimir Putin’s Russia is heading.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=BDBFAEF5-5295-400F-807B-83D20FFA285C
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'PUTIN'S RUSSIA' by Anna Politkovskaya:
http://www.annapolitkovskaya.com/

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From AP via FoxNews.com...

Last Living Beslan School Attacker Sentenced to Life in Prison
May 28, 2006

VLADIKAVKAZ, Russia — AP
A southern Russian court on Friday sentenced the sole surviving Beslan school attacker to life in prison, capping a yearlong trial that survivors and victims' relatives say has left the most essential questions about the tragedy unanswered.

They demand to know just who bore the most responsibility: Nur-Pashi Kulayev and his 31 fellow militants, or the officials whose negligence or even alleged complicity allowed them to seize hundreds of children and parents on the first day of school in September 2004.

Countrywatch: Russia

"I did not go to court to become convinced of Kulayev's guilt, but to reconstruct all the circumstances of the terrorist attack and find the truth," said Aneta Gadiyeva, whose daughter was killed. "But I did not learn anything new and did not get any answers." ..."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197093,00.html

[plain talk]

Whether Russians are capable of murder is not the issue. Putin was KGB, right? If he wants people murdered he knows how to do that and it involves far less conspicous means than taking down a plane carrying a foreign leader’s President as it lands in your country with dozens or hundreds of people as witnesses to shooting down the plane. There is no evidence for it and it makes zero sense. It is one of the more lamer ideas even considered at this site. Right up there with the 9/11 inside job fruitcakes

[vigilante2]

The boy didn’t walk away from the crash, he was all busted up

In this video they claim that a black man jumped from the cockpit and stated to run away. I find it hard to believe he was a passenger on that Polish plane

[mkjessup]

the guy’s video doesn’t show squat. I’ve seen it. Fodder for fools.

Thank you Comrade Talkski, your faith in the purity of the Soviet err, Russian authorities is truly inspiring.

See you next May Day at the Kremlin, are you buying the vodka and borscht or are we?

[The Bronze Titan]

Does anyone know what the Russian is saying in the video??

[vigilante2]

True

[plain talk]

It’s embarrassing we have people at Free Republic that don’t think these things through and jump to conclusions based on no evidence. The Russians had no motive to take out the Polish President as he was no threat to them. Yes Poland is more freedom loving and loves the US but it isn’t much of a threat as the Polish have their hands full still trying to rebuild after destruction from the Nazi’s and the Soviets. Taking out the Polish President does nothing for Russia. But if Putin wanted to do that he could have easily had him assassinated without leaving a trail. People move around pretty freely in Poland and police resources are modest - in fact there is a lot of crime issues. Much easier ways than taking down a President’s plane.

I was just over there 3 months ago. Since the crash I have corresponded with my Polish friends and they don’t think this was a Russian conspiracy. If anyone had reasons to blame the Russians it is them. My friend’s Mother was starved by the Russians in one of their camps and had other family members shot. In fact he is lucky to have been born.

[theanchoragedailyruse]

When they say black they are talking about the color of the image.

The FSB wear black.

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Putin was KGB, right? If he wants people murdered he knows how to do that and it involves far less conspicuous means

They well may have taken into account that it would be so "conspicuous" and "obvious" that no one would even consider them. Look at all the other cases where it now believed very likely that they were behind it: various assassinations and assassination attempts. The Russians are masters at the complex game of chess, while most of us have a hard time figuring out checkers. They think many moves in advance.

[theanchoragedailyruse]

I find your comments odd given that a few thousands of people in Poland protested the Russians denials in obtaining the black boxes and getting only transcripts, not being able to speak with the videographer, etc, etc.

The mantra was “we want the truth”. And the numbers of protestors are growing, so I have to question your comments and the truth of what you say.

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Does anyone know what the Russian is saying in the video??

I have no idea. I haven't even watched the video, which I suspect 'could' be some bogus thing the Russians planted or arranged themselves to undermine the case of those accusing them of being responsible. If or when the video is shown to be BS, they will be 'off the hook'. A fairly simple deception which seems to work just about every time.

[buzzer]

The airport had no ILS. It’s a VFR only air port. The russians told’em not to land because of the bad weather. So not the ruskies fault.

[plain talk]

Truth? Who knows. I can only tell you of the middle class Polish people ones I know and what they think. Not others. But give this some thought. There is no rationale for such an unnecessary risky conspiracy. The Polish President wasn’t exactly popular with everyone. They could have found easier ways to kill him if they wanted to do that. But then I ask why would they want to kill him in teh first place? Poland just replaces him with someone else and their policies haven’t changed. Poland is not a very powerful country and is preoccupied with their own internal stuff. And there is no evidence for shooting down the President’s plane.

[theanchoragedailyruse]

The Poles have verified the authenticity...

There was a posible ruse to try to get the Russians to prove the videographer was alive.

The Poles want to talk to the individual.

Russia says nyet.

[vigilante2]

Regardless, I find it hard to believe anybody could walk away from that crash let alone run away.

I don’t believe the man running from the cockpit was on the plane when it crashed. I believe he was a witness who was looking for survivors.

I know it’s not impossible to survive a plane crash but this video doesn’t prove there were any survivors

[Churchillspirit]

The cellphone camera has utterly changed the information control game.

Ain't that the truth.