Posted on 05/13/2010 12:26:33 PM PDT by fathers1
I didn’t say whether or not I thought he should have the child because I don’t know. I am just posting more info that I found regarding the living situation.
Is the father employed and fit to parent the child? Can he provide a stable, loving home?(I couldn’t figure that out from the article)
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none of that matters. Is he the father? did he surrender his parental rights?
You don’t get to steal children “just because”.
If the transition is smoothe, I hope the father is psychologically mature enough to include “Aunt and Uncle” [the parents wanting to adopt his child] in their lives. Occasional visits, photos, cards and gifts.
He could ask them to be his daughter’s Godparents!
I'm not sure this dad has learned his lesson. Don't impregnate a woman who is not your wife. If you wanted a formal wedding so bad, you shouldn't have put the cart before the horse. Go to a justice of the peace, get married and save your money for the party later.
But the adoptive parents only have custody based on fraud. The rulings that were made were made using lies, therefore the rulings aren't valid.
I'll have to read up on this case, did the adoptive parents really know all along about the father? If so, fie upon them!!! They willfully put this kid's mental health at stake....not nice words for them. Thankfully, tho, the child is young enough that she will have a shorter adjustment period than would an older child, and her chances of emotional scarring are less. In this case, I think the bio dad and the daughter will be the winners, and all other parties should be prosecuted. Too bad the adoption agency will get dragged into it...
I would have advised him to end all contact with them.
there is no reason for any continued contact.
Their contact with the girl ended when the court ruled on the fraud which placed the child there.
With all due respect, it’s not the same thing if I knock up my girlfriend and she breaks up with me and doesn’t let me see my biological child than if I’ve been raising a child as mine since birth until he’s two years old and they take him away from me at that point.
Jewbacca, it takes many months for parents who have been raising a baby over whose custody they received from an adoption agency to actually be able to adopt that baby. Since the biological father did not know for certain that the baby had been born until his father saw a notice of termination of parental rights in the newspaper when the custodial parents were about to adopt the baby, and only then did the biological father have gone to court, the matter was certainly not “before the courts” since the child’s birth, but many months later. What do you suggest, that the parents who had been raising their child for months send the child to a foster home because the guy who knocked up the baby’s mother wants custody?
I know that the biological father got a raw deal from his girlfriend, but that’s what happens when you don’t wait until marriage to have a baby. The woman could have moved to Russia before giving birth or, even worse, had an abortion, and there was not a damn thing that the biological father could do to prevent it. I have no sympathy for the biological mother here, but my sympathy for the biological father does not extend so far as to take away a child from his parents.
I love my two daughters with all my heart, and I would not love them any less if it turned out that somehow I was not their biological father. The experience of raising them since birth, not mere biology, has created an unbreakable bond between us. I have close friends who are adoptive parents, and I know that the bond between them and their children are no different from mine. I know that fathers always get the shaft in custody fights, but taking a child from his adoptive parents is not the right way to right those wrongs.
I’m sure the dad will get custody. I have friends who were foster parents to a new born baby. They took care of the baby straight from the hospital after the birth for an entire year. They couldn’t wait to adopt her, but the grandmother decided at the last minute she wanted to adopt the baby (took grandma a year to make up her mind, but she did). Custody was given to the grandmother, my friends were heartbroken, but this is what happened. (They later ended up adopting a beautiful baby girl from China : )
OK, as posted above, if I steal your next child, give him or her to muslims and you don’t find your child for two years, the child should stay with the muslims because they are his parents?
Of course not.
I don’t know the timing, but the father has been seeking his child probably since 6 months in.
The adoptive parents are selfish, evil, -— yes, evil -— people for not doing the right thing 1 1/2 years ago.
The mother started this fight, but the adoptive parents continued it.
Eric, read the article and then reconsider your response.
I read it.
He knocked her up after knowing her a whole month.
Whether he wanted to do the honorable thing or not, he made a baby with a woman he didn’t know very well.
***What a perverse, wicked, evil generation we live in.***
Yes, and it’s been going on and getting worse and worse since the ‘60s. I hope, and I pray everyday that God has allowed Obama to become president to show us just how much we need God.
But the father could have prevented it if he had married her before he knocked her up. It appears he still hasn’t learned his lesson because he got into a new relationship and did the same thing.
Yes, and the price of tea at Wal-Mart is $6.32
The point is that he is not the victim here. The only victim is the child.
But, after becoming aware of her pregnancy, he wanted to marry her. She broke it off. I'd quote from the article, but that would not enlighten you as much as you reading the whole thing for yourself.
I know, it's a legal-ese article and not written to the usual 7th grade level of USA Toady (that's not a slam on you or anyone else's reading ability, that's just the facts), but if you do take the time to read it, you'll see that this guy had every intention of doing the right thing.
As for the whole sex-before-marriage argument, it's moot. It happens, has been for centuries. Us kvetching about it will not change it. I wonder if she also does not bear some responsibility for this?
Bottom line: this guy is not a dead beat dad, he deserves props for taking a stand and being a real father to his child. I do hope he finds a way to include the adoptive parents in that child's life...but if he does, that's a decision and a pattern that must be established as soon as he gains legal and physical custody. He can't start a relationship with them now and then put them out of the pic later...nor should he cut off all ties between the child and the adoptive parents immediately.
As for the mother, I'm hoping there's a little jail time in her future!
In a case like this adoptive parents lose all rights to everything. I know a couple who lost a baby in the first 6 months when the Mom changed her mind.Fifteen years later and they have never seen her again.
Is the judge going to give the father the first year of the child’s life?
The first word, walk, first moment of pure fatherhood just by swipe of a pen and issuance of a court order?
That time was STOLLEN.
I bet this non-adoptive parents did not even consent to visitation as they tried to use the legal argument of “no backsies”
in older times you had sex before marriage to make CERTAIN the future bride could be pregnant and once pregnant you had a hasty marriage so the baby arrived 9 months later.
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