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NY-23: Conservative Party Stands With Hoffman; Will GOP Listen?
American Spectator ^ | 5.12.10 @ 10:34PM | By Robert Stacy McCain

Posted on 05/13/2010 8:05:53 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Since Doug Hoffman's electrifying campaign in last fall's wild three-way special election in upstate New York, other candidates have thrown their hats in the ring for the GOP nomination for the seat now held by Democrat Rep. Bill Owens. Among those candidates is Matt Doheny.

Jude Seymour of the Watertown (N.Y.) Daily Times reports that Conservative Party chairman Mike Long says he's committed to supporting Hoffman this fall...

To grasp the problem now facing the GOP in NY-23 requires an understanding of New York's multi-party system. In addition to the Democratic and Republican parties, several other minor parties have ballot lines, and for a major-party candidate to pick up the endorsement of a minor party can be crucial in a close election. Last year in NY-23, for example, there were five parties on the ballot: Owens was on two lines (Democrat and Working Families parties), Scozzafava was on two lines (Republican and Independence) and Hoffman was on the Conservative line. If Hoffman wins the GOP nomination, he'll be on at least two lines, and could win the Independence Party endorsement, as well.

Mike Long has made the argument that no Republican can win NY-23 without the Conservative Party's endorsement, and he is adamant that the endorsement will go to Doug Hoffman this fall. So the question now is: Does the New York GOP wish to repeat last year's disastrous attempt to prove Mike Long wrong?

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: doheny; doug; hoffman; matt; ny2010
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1 posted on 05/13/2010 8:05:53 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The GOP is not called the Stupid Party for nothing.

Look at the MA Governor’s race for more proof of that.


2 posted on 05/13/2010 8:09:09 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They better listen— look what happened last yr


3 posted on 05/13/2010 8:09:28 AM PDT by reaganwasright1980
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Vote for Scozzafava!


4 posted on 05/13/2010 8:20:46 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
he is adamant that the endorsement will go to Doug Hoffman

I thought this issue would be decided by a primary. Why is this guy deciding who the nominee is better than the Republican chairs deciding? Doesn't the rank a file get a say?

Silly me.

5 posted on 05/13/2010 8:22:35 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

If the Republican national idiots hadn’t poured in a million dollars to defeat Doug Hoffman, he surely would have won.

And, contrary to this writer’s wording, the Conservative Party in New York is NOT a minor party. They have been around for a long time, and their role is, basically, to negotiate with the Republicans to ensure that they don’t get some flaming abortionist lover as a candidate.

If the candidate is at least decent, they’ll give him a second line on the ballot. But if the candidate is a lousy RINO, and the Republicans refuse to deal, then they nominate another candidate. The Conservative Party is usually pretty reasonable, and don’t make trouble unless they have to. Scozzafava, as we saw, was good reason to make trouble. She was a total disaster. The problem is that the Conservative Party is reasonable, but the Republicans are not. They are just plain greedy and stupid.


6 posted on 05/13/2010 8:24:39 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: colorado tanker

You need to re-read the article. The Chair of the Conservative Party is adamant that the endorsement of that party (not the GOP) is going to Hoffman. The Conservative Party doesn’t have a primary. The GOP does. The problem being created is that the GOP, rather than get behind Hoffman, is considering setting up another three-way race.


7 posted on 05/13/2010 8:25:29 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The Conservative Party doesn’t have a primary

That's my point. One guy should not decide this, no matter how much you and I may like Hoffman. The rank and file voters should.

8 posted on 05/13/2010 8:34:40 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The problem being created is that the GOP, rather than get behind Hoffman, is considering setting up another three-way race.

I'm not sure the party is doing any such thing - the GOP lacks the power to keep candidates off the ballot. If they go out and get the signatures, they'll be on the primary ballot, whether the "party" likes it or not.

9 posted on 05/13/2010 8:43:13 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Republican Establishment would rather see Owens re-elected than see a conservative like Hoffman get in office.


10 posted on 05/13/2010 8:43:32 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’d stay away from the Independence Party.


11 posted on 05/13/2010 8:44:19 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Conservative Party can have a primary — it has on rare occasions. Like any other party, if a particular candidate polls a given percentage at the state convention (or district convention in this case), he or she can be on the primary ballot. At one time, that number was 15 percent. I think they may hve raised it.


12 posted on 05/13/2010 8:49:10 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Please not deja vu.


13 posted on 05/13/2010 8:54:13 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: GeronL

Look at the Pa. 12th where Burns and Russell will split the vote and allow the socialist Critz win. Nuts.


14 posted on 05/13/2010 9:16:53 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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The problem being created is that the GOP, rather than get behind Hoffman, is considering setting up another three-way race.

You've got it pretty much backwards. There is going to be a Republican primary, in which Republicans who live in the district will decide who they want to represent them in the general election. Long says that if Hoffman loses that primary, the Conservative Party (which Long owns lock, stock, and barrel) will back Hoffman in the general election. Wasn't the complaint last year that "party leaders" instead of Republican voters got to decide who the GOP would run in the general election? This is one guy who lives in New York City making the decision. So if the Democrat gets re-elected this year, the blame lies with Long and Hoffman.
15 posted on 05/13/2010 9:17:46 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: phillyfanatic

Only one will face Critz.


16 posted on 05/13/2010 9:40:29 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: TBP

An enrolled Conservative can stage a primary without support of the Conservative party boss by getting enough signatures from enrolled members of the Conservative Party.

It’s something like 15% of the total number of Conservative Party votes for Governor in the last general election.

If you are NOT enrolled in a third party you can ONLY primary if you get a “Wilson-Pecula” letter/exception from the party boss.


17 posted on 05/13/2010 9:45:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: CPT Clay

The Republican party can’t be trusted. They are screwing us over in the 2nd CD of New York. You can read the details on my blog.
http://longislandpatriot.wordpress.com/


18 posted on 05/13/2010 9:51:51 AM PDT by swimmom22
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To: fieldmarshaldj

True, but if the other supporters stay at home, Critz will win. The GOP has to unite all factions as well as Indies, Libertarians and any Reagan Dems left in all 435 House districts to really unseat these socialist pacifists. I just do not like the Pubs killing one another off to be the most pure candidate when Dems keep piling on whoever , whatever Pub wins with smears. It is Pubs who in high dudgeon who stay at home if their choice loses.


19 posted on 05/13/2010 9:53:33 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: phillyfanatic

The problem with this attitude of the Conservative party is that Hoffman wasn’t the best candidate during the special election, nor the most conservative.

What he was, was the only candidate willing to break his pledge to support Scozzafava.

I can’t disagree with that decision — Scuzzy was a bridge too far and her endorsement of the Dem sealed the deal — but plenty of other candidates would have worked.

If Hoffman can’t win the GOP primary, then he won’t be able to win the general election and his Conservative party candidacy is nothing more than that of another spoiled child (the same as Crist and Bennett) who can’t accept losing.

Hoffman is well-funded and well-known. There is no way that the GOP elders can railroad through some stealth candidate.

Accept the will of the voters, don’t threaten to take your ball and go home everytime it doesn’t go your way.


20 posted on 05/13/2010 10:05:22 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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