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Agents Provocateurs Fuel Anti-Right-wing Propaganda [Please read!]
The New American ^ | May 12, 2010 | William F. Jasper

Posted on 05/12/2010 12:09:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Venturer

I read a whole book written by someone who claims to have been an FBI agent assigned to infiltrate Hell’s Angels. He claimed to have gotten so involved that he pretty much lost his real identity and became a real biker freak.


21 posted on 05/12/2010 12:45:43 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Didn’t the Weather Underground get off the hook legally because somebody (FBI?) had infiltrated their group and that was considered to be an unfair tactic?


22 posted on 05/12/2010 12:47:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be wise to get photos of them, the names they go by, and what they have been doing (names, dates, places) to show that they might be an agent. This info then needs to distributed to all other Tea Party groups.


23 posted on 05/12/2010 1:03:05 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How can we fight back?

We need to remember who the ORIGINAL purveyors of such hate were. To help you all, let me provide a list to start us all off:

• Slavery of men
• Party of the southern states for much of the US history
• Creators of an organization know as the Ku Klux Klan
• Racial Segregation
• White supremacy
• Lynch Laws

It is very popular for the Democratic Party to make it sound as if it was their party that elected Lincoln, passed the Emancipaton Proclamation and brought about passage of the Civil Rights Act, but they did not. We need to once more pull their own dark history out of the closet and pound them with it over and over again until those who support them finally get it.

When you think about it, all those organizations they want to label us as being part of contain every element of what they themselves once were.

24 posted on 05/12/2010 1:20:42 PM PDT by egfowler3 (No Vacancy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
White Aryan Resistance (W.A.R.), a violent, racist national group headed by Tom Metzger

Ironically Tom Metzger in openly a socialist and supported Obama during the election (After all Nazi stands for National Socialist Workers Party)

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/racists-support-obama-061308

25 posted on 05/12/2010 1:27:45 PM PDT by tophat9000 (It ain't about Black... It ain't about White...It's about a Red...Trying to take our rights!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Black Agnes

It’s simple, tit for tat, infiltrate them back. Two can play this game. However, we on the right have been fightback fires with water pistols and bringing noodles to gunfights we forgot the principles of war. Your opponent brings a knife, you bring a gun.


26 posted on 05/12/2010 1:43:55 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How can we fight back?

Time to get hands dirty, hold noses and fight fire with fire.

Try the same tactics that Alinsky suggests against them. I see no other way unless it's to come to a shooting war.

27 posted on 05/12/2010 2:04:13 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Its the Ruby Ridge scenario


28 posted on 05/12/2010 2:19:28 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He turned out to be Obama supporter Maurice Schwenkler, a Democrat Party activist and environmental/transgender activist who had recently worked for the SEIU, one of Obama’s most supportive labor unions...

environmental/transgender activist ? ? ?

29 posted on 05/12/2010 2:38:32 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
According to news accounts and Turner’s defense attorney, Turner was recruited by FBI counterterrorism agents in 2002 or 2003 and paid thousands of dollars to engage in his “white power” antics, supposedly to flush out and expose genuine racists who could pose a terror threat. His federal handlers even sanctioned an earlier threat he had made against another federal judge, Turner says. The feds acknowledge that Turner worked for them ...

I guess it's understandable then that the FBI and DHS consider "white racists" to be a serious domestic threat. They're the ones behind the efforts to create and incite them.


It sounds a lot like the phenomena of the fireman cum arsonist who sets fires so he can be sent to put them out.

30 posted on 05/12/2010 2:42:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Cattle prod


31 posted on 05/12/2010 2:49:02 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: TigersEye
notice that MECHA and LaRaza are conspicuous by their absence...
32 posted on 05/12/2010 3:21:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
as well as Earth First, Earth Liberation Front, ALF, etc...
33 posted on 05/12/2010 3:22:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Well, they’re not inciting revolution revolution. /s


34 posted on 05/12/2010 3:23:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
The major problem for prosecutors is that Turner was on the payroll of the FBI for much of the time that he was spewing his hate-filled rants across the World Wide Web and delivering speeches throughout the country to Aryan misfits. According to news accounts and Turner's defense attorney, Turner was recruited by FBI counterterrorism agents in 2002 or 2003 and paid thousands of dollars to engage in his "white power" antics, supposedly to flush out and expose genuine racists who could pose a terror threat. His federal handlers even sanctioned an earlier threat he had made against another federal judge, Turner says. The feds acknowledge that Turner worked for them but claim they severed the relationship in 2007. However, according to Peter J. Sampson, a reporter for The Record in New Jersey, "records show Turner continued to provide tips to the FBI and other agencies until weeks before his arrest last June."
Jeremiah Wright was *not*, however.
35 posted on 05/12/2010 7:30:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: madamemayhem
nuke them from orbit, just to be sure.

f'n A! /"Aliens"

36 posted on 05/12/2010 9:44:05 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Mike/Chris Wallace: Did you give in? Palin: "HELL NO!" 176 days til the midterms, if they're held..)
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