Posted on 05/11/2010 2:48:14 PM PDT by Drango
Posted: May 11, 2010 at 10:00 AM [Today]
Michigan has banned smoking in restaurants and bar, which means some bars and restaurants noted for being smoky have a need to attract new customers, bring back old customers that have left because the place was too smoky, or find ways to accommodate their regulars who are used to smoking.
Here's a list of some new reviews, gathered from the Internet, showing some reactions to the environment in newly smoke-free places around town that were previously noted for their smoky atmosphere.
Fraser's
Fraser's Pub is a neighborhood pub on Packard Street. Among other things it was known for how smoky it was, with reviews on Yelp noting even that it had a cigarette machine.
The restaurant was repainted and cleaned in anticipation of the smoking ban.
Alice Ralph: "We settled in with a friend (a former smoker) and felt an unfamiliar ease from breathing air minus smoke. Some other "regulars" were there, but suddenly we realized that at the very next table were neighbors that we had never seen at Fraser's. That made a total of five people we knew, who chose to try a neighborhood business that night, mainly because of the ban on smoking. It's as if Fraser's is making new friends and keeping the old. We are looking forward to more of that in our neighborhood and all around town."
John Hritz: "First trip to the newly non-smoking Fraser's was cool. We really liked the thin crust Pub Pizza."
Knight's
Julie Weatherbee: "Knights is packed! And not smoky!!!!! Yay!"
Two reviews of Knight's on Yelp, from before and after the smoking ban, are illustrative.
Tyler B, writing on May 6: "But that doesn't give you any sense of what Knights is about. It's a steakhouse. Not a place that serves steak. Steakhouse. The drinks are strong and the meat is tasty. If you're looking for something else, you're in the wrong place. And hey, Michigan is smoke free now, so the reviewers who didn't like that aspect, congrats. You've lessened my Scorsese analogy."
Michael F, writing on April 2, 2010, before the ban: "...you have to wade through the smokers to get to non-smoking, so be prepared to lose your appetite if you object to smoke, and to smell like cigarette and cigar smoke until you can wash your hair and burn your clothing."
Ashley's
Ashley's on State Street is taking the smoking ban in stride with its Smoke-Free Smoked Beer Fest. It is serving many varieties of smoked beers, including Stones Smoked Porter, Original Gravitys 440 Pepper Smoker, New Hollands Charkoota Smoked Rye Doppelbock, Schlenkerla Fastenbier and more.
Smoked beers are produced with malt that has been roasted over an open flame, which imparts a smokiness which The British Guide to German Beer says is reminiscent of Lapsang Souchong tea.
Royal Oak: Royal Canadian Legion Maple Leaf Post-84
Royal Canadian Legion Maple Leaf Post-84 in Royal Oak, about 45 minutes northeast of Ann Arbor, is organizing an effort to exempt private veteran's clubs from the smoking ban.
The view from afar
Congrats to Michigan, writes Erich from SmokeFree Wisconsin. "Great work to the all the advocates in Michigan. Your work will make an impact on the future generations!"
Edward Vielmetti no longer has to enjoy second hand smoke while having breakfast at the Fleetwood Diner.
I was in Vegas last week where hubby was actually allowed to enjoy a cigar with his adult beverage with other like-minded adults. OH, THE HORROR!
The champagne cigar bar with dueling pianos playing was wonderful to relax in. We’ll be returning there in ten weeks.
My entertainment dollars go there, not anywhere in my state, which has a smoking ban. I vote with my dollars just like everyone else.
Article is complete BS but you know that.
Get back to me when the mom and pops shut down...
It happened here already...the people demanding a smoking ban wouldnt be caught dead in a niegborhood bar...too scumy...
It usually takes about 6 months to weed out those who cant run at a loss for long...
Let me add...
TO HECK WITH THE NANNY-STATERS who cannot compromise.
Drango, please go on the Michigan State board, you’ll see how some people in Michigan are doing under this Nanny State Law.
P.S. I played on Vegas’ money, too! :-)
I’ve started chewing Copenhagen again, since the smoking ban. I’m sure the nazis will go after that next.
I think it effects ex-smokers worse than someone who has never smoked as my husband and I are traveling now with a group of senior citizens, who never smoked, and they don't mind going into the smoke filled Indian Casino's to gamble. Since we don't gamble we just walk through to the buffet and it makes me real whoozy.
Where I live, Washington State has been no smoking in Restraurants for many years now.
The same prediction, that banning smoking would be a death knell for restaurant and bar establishments in Oregon and Washington states, utterly failed.
Less and less people are smoking nowadays. Which is good for me, as I have a serious allergy to tobacco.
The only restaurant that refused to ban smoking in our city went out of business five years ago due to a lack of customers.
The article is BS. The old rules of supply and demand. If there was a demand, there would be a supply, not a law.
I remember the vote. Free people walking into a voting booth is always good in a democracy or representative republic. Some people like to assert it wasn't a representative vote but EVERY county including those in the conservative eastern sectors approved the ban.
California has had a ban in like forever and it's a good thing.
LMAO! Yeah, right.
Here in PA, there is somewhat of a ban on smoking in bars/restaurants. However, for whatever reason, the magic of our government run casino seems to negate the harsh, deadly effects of second hand smoke ... you can smoke your guts out there ... again, government magic :-)!
I e-smoke. I had some crazy lady throw a fit once when she found out it was water vapor and not “toxic second hand death”. She almost looked disappointed.
I really wish they would ban tobacco sales all together ... I am sick and tired of these damn restrictions they place on a legal product. Seriously, if it is so deadly, grow some cajones and promote to ban the damn substance like the rest of these illicit drugs out there!!!! However, if they do that, they risk undoing everything they’ve accomplished over the past 30 years.
Restaurants, bars gain business under smoke ban
By Stephen Smith, Globe Staff | April 4, 2005
Sales and employment at Massachusetts restaurants and bars grew slightly during the first six months of a statewide smoking ban, disproving predictions that the prohibition would inflict serious damage on the hospitality industry, Harvard researchers are scheduled to report today.
As part of the study, analysts from the Harvard School of Public Health tested the air in 27 bars and restaurants both before and after the ban went into effect last July 5. The result: Dangerous cancer-causing toxins plummeted by 93 percent once cigarettes, cigars, and pipes were banished.
The findings arrive as the campaign to eliminate smoking from its last indoor public havens gains momentum not just nationally but globally, with European nations, led by Ireland, moving to extinguish the tradition of a Scotch and a smoke at pubs, nightclubs, and restaurants.
It is a movement hailed as a signal public health triumph and a sweeping social shift. But an increasing body of evidence also suggests that what’s good for the health of workers and patrons may also boost the bottom line of businesses.
‘’Now, we can tell other states considering this kind of law: ‘If you implement this law, you’re not only going to have a better work environment — you don’t have to affect the economics of your hospitality industry,’ “ said Gregory Connolly, an author of the Harvard study and former chief of the tobacco control program at the Massachusetts Department of Public Health, where he was an ardent champion of initiatives to stop smoking.
The Harvard researchers reviewed state tax records for all restaurants, bars, and nightclubs from July through December of last year — the first six months of the statewide ban — and compared them with receipts for the comparable period in previous years.
To make an apples-to-apples comparison, the researchers took into account inflation. Even after doing that, they found that tax collections on meals rose about 9 percent after the ban went into effect compared with the July through December average for 1999 through 2003. The researchers also found that alcoholic beverage excise tax collections remained essentially steady.
Similarly, the figures showed a slight rise in the number of people working in restaurants and bars.
‘’We had anticipated that and projected that, but no one believed us,” said Joyce Redford, director of the North Shore Tobacco Control Program, which covers nine cities and towns. ‘’Now look: Lo and behold, it’s exactly what happened.”
Even the business alliance that once stood determinedly in opposition to the ban, sending it to repeated defeats on Beacon Hill, concedes that the law has had no persistent negative effects.
‘’It caused kind of a minor blip in business at first,” said Gail Anastas, director of communications for the Massachusetts Restaurant Association. ‘’But then they did things to attract people back. Everybody just wanted a level playing field, and when it went statewide, it made it the same for everyone
~snip
You know you may be on to something. I quit 17 years ago after being a long time smoker and I can smell smoke if someone drives by my home and I am outside, very sensitive to smoke. Didn't realize what a pain I was to those around me but sure do now.
AnnArbor.com?
You managed to find the most liberal media in the midwest to reinforce your fascist views.
Worry about your own infected colon of a state.
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