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My response to this op-ed:

Mort Kondracke, a liberal pundit and the editor of RollCall, states in reference to the Obama administration, “the dichotomy between one rhetorical mood and the other is so pronounced that you almost suspect the administration and its leader are bipolar.” Of course, the term “bipolar” is used predominantly as a psychological descriptor for what used to be called “manic-depressive disorder”. In the context of Mr. Kondracke’s editorial, I’m sure his intent was to underscore the antonymic nature of words spoken to one set of people verses words on the same subject spoken to a different group, not that our Commander-in-Chief needs meds and psychoanalysis.

While Mr. Kondracke rues the situation, his pretext that “Obama certainly is not a socialist…” does little to explain why things are as he describes them, i.e., “It won’t stop, and it’s very sad.” Since he fails to even attempt to deconstruct the whys and wherefores, here’s my theory in the subject.

Often times, people try to make an impression on others contrary to their true nature in order to try to match those folks’ expectations and not antagonize them. But putting up a façade can only last for so long before it starts fray and wear thin. My theory is that President Obama and his administration are far more radical than they want to portray and the fact that their collective façade is becoming translucent explains these widely disparate and conflicting postures.

Are we to believe that the administration is cooperating and working alongside BP to solve the oil spill in the gulf while, as stated by the Interior Secretary, it would “…keep its boot [on BP's] neck…”? If that comment doesn’t depict a hostile and vaguely tyrannical mien, I don’t know what does. And harkening way back to early campaign comments, we all remember the future President’s now famous quote at a San Francisco fund-raiser, “and it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them…as a way to explain their frustrations.” Even then his radical (bipolar?) view of Middle-America was poking irreverently through centrist pretense into public view.

This administrations’ contempt for free enterprise, the insurance industry, the banking industry, Wall Street, the medical professions, the oil industry, small business, and, yes, even mainstream Americans, is now slipping out from the veil of pseudo-centrist rhetoric that has been used to obfuscate radicalism. It is becoming increasingly obvious that this administration views vastly bigger government with more control over more aspects of America’s life, resources, and business as the key to a better country. And that would be true only in the wildest dreams of a . . . socialist.

1 posted on 05/11/2010 8:57:49 AM PDT by downtownconservative
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To: downtownconservative
Mort Kondracke: "Obama & Co. are not socialist or communist, they're bipolar."

(knew I should've stopped reading at Kondracke)

2 posted on 05/11/2010 9:02:31 AM PDT by workerbee (Yes, I hate Obama because of his color: RED!)
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To: downtownconservative
President Barack Obama certainly is not a socialist — let alone a communist — as some of his far-out detractors claim

Dear Snort,

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

You stupid blithering idiot.

/Zak

3 posted on 05/11/2010 9:02:59 AM PDT by Zakeet (The Wee Wee -- rapidly moving America from WTF to SNAFU to FUBAR)
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To: downtownconservative

Well, I glanced through it, but that first sentence is enough to make you stop reading any further. What a jerk!


4 posted on 05/11/2010 9:03:15 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: downtownconservative

Jesus Christ Himself could not unite this country. Not today.


5 posted on 05/11/2010 9:04:04 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: downtownconservative
My own hunch is that Obama, at heart, is not a socialist but a liberal without the slightest idea of how private enterprises create wealth — and deeply suspicious of their practitioners.

Mort, your hunch is only half right. Where is the line where one can be called a socialist? Where is the line where one can be called a capitalist? These are not digital questions but analog questions and Obama is closer to the socialist end of the scale than he is to the capitalist end of the scale. Which isn't to say he personally, doesn't like wealth for himself but then isn't that just like a socialist? ;-)

6 posted on 05/11/2010 9:04:06 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: downtownconservative
Good analysis until ..."are the key to a better country." Never, ever believe that a better country is the intent of the ship of fools currently at the helm. They want it crushed and demoralized and conquered, for absolutely nothing more than their own power and wealth. Period.
8 posted on 05/11/2010 9:06:30 AM PDT by workerbee (Yes, I hate Obama because of his color: RED!)
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To: downtownconservative
I don't think Morton Kondrake knows what a socialist is.

obama sure fits the mold in my eyes. In actuality, I think that obama is even further left than socialists. Maybe a commusocialist.

9 posted on 05/11/2010 9:07:10 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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To: downtownconservative
President Barack Obama certainly is not a socialist — let alone a communist — as some of his far-out detractors claim.

It is truly maddening that so many people cannot or are unwilling to see this madman for what he is. It's surprising that anyone of this mindset can cross a street; deluding themselves into believing that the 18 wheeler they see will not hit them.

10 posted on 05/11/2010 9:08:17 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: downtownconservative; Jim Robinson
I haven't read the article, nor your reply, but based on the title/question, I'd say very much a uniter.

Not since the 60's (imo) has there been such a clearly defined left and right faction.

zero has coelesced as much of the anti-American element into our politics which in turn has bonded many Freedom loving Americans in much the same way as Jim Robinson did when he started talking to and finding a whole $h!tload of people displeased with the direction our nation was taking.

FreeRepublic will always be my first love in political/socio information and I'm not waxing romantic when I say I need you folks and this place.

Thanx, Jim

11 posted on 05/11/2010 9:09:17 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: downtownconservative
From Mort Kondrake - Of course. No wonder you think that Obama is not socialist or communist. In part you are right. Mort, you are part of the Progressive Problem we have. The goal of the current "Progressives" that are in power is one-world government, and this is one part of their strategy to achieve it. They are nearly Fascists in the government they espouse. It is time to again post my detailed argument about this- apologies to those who have already seen and absorbed it.

Listen up, Mort!

- - - -

People are now realizing just what the word "Progressive" means. The leftists needed a new name in America when the voters permanently soured on the direction "liberals" were pulling the country.

These super-liberals who call themselves "PROGRESSIVE" espouse a new form of government that is actually a synthesis of two previously existing government forms: Communism and Fascism.

When many use the word “fascist” they are simply using it as a pejorative. When people were calling Bush “fascist”, that was simply a smear. When I challenged them to define fascist, and they were unable to respond, I educated them. That reduced them to calling him monkey instead. Dear Leader has been RULING as a fascist (most recently demonstrated by his nominating to the USSC someone who wants to crush political free speech, as well as the FCCs declaring the internet a "utility" for the same reason.) as I will demonstrate.

However, when using "Fascist" here, I am NOT using it as a pejorative. It's an attempt to describe as accurately as possible the system of government they espouse and are trying to bring about. I ran into a problem, though, when researching the question.

I excerpt part of http://open-encyclopedia.com/Fascism as a base for the analysis.

The word fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini's, that

... The purpose of the government under fascism proper was to value itself as the highest priority to its culture in just being the state in itself, the larger scope of which, the better...

... The Nazi movement spoke of class-based society as the enemy, and wanted to unify the racial element above established classes. The Fascist movement, on the other hand, sought to preserve the class system and uphold it as the foundation of established and desirable culture...

...Fascism rejects the central tenets of Marxism, which are class struggle, and the need to replace capitalism with a society run by the working class in which the workers own the means of production. ...

[Fascism includes] capitalism ... This was a new capitalist system, however, one in which the state seized control of the organization of vital industries.

Look at the agenda the Progressives have undertaken since gaining control of Congress in 2006, and indeed before that time. Control of business, reduction of personal liberty, using propaganda and censorship to suppress opposition, social regimentation, higher taxes which again reduces personal liberty, expanding national government everywhere, even severe regimentation passing laws about light bulbs and on and on. Much of their agenda and methodology is VERY fascist.

However, bullet points 1 & 4 give us a problem whether we use nationalism or racism. Progressives certainly never goad people into a frenzy by extolling the virtues of the United States so are not nationalists in the typical sense of the word. They don’t use racism that way, either- they merely use it as a pejorative. Thus, we are not quite accurate in equating Progressivism with Fascism.

A digression concerning Nazi (National Socialist) vs. Fascist: Nazi is a subset of Fascist, but that subset does not include any more Progressive traits than Fascist.

What actually is needed to describe Progressives is Fascism that is NOT nationalist, at least nationalism in the sense of promotion of their nation as superior.

They are not Socialist (Marxist), either. When have you EVER heard a Progressive politician or any of the Democrats extol the virtues of having a classless society? Certainly they don't desire that for themselves or their rich donors! They are definitely in favor of a classes, with themselves in the highest class.

This brings up the following, from the same main source: http://open-encyclopedia.com/Communism

In terms of socio-economic systems, communism and socialism are two different things. For example, socialism involves the existence of a state, while communism does not...[and] abolishes private ownership altogether.

I’ve heard it argued that Communism has never been implemented, as a result. Apologies to Marx and Engels, but it is the supporters of communism who make that argument. Communism as it is now defined requires that there be NO “state”.

This helps us gain some ground. Communism shares this major feature of "no state" with Progressivism! So, where are we now?

These super-liberals, including Dear Leader and those who are currently running congress, have been pushing CapNTax, ObamaCare, apologies for the US, making nice with sworn enemies, international law, eliminating military superiority, etc.. In nearly EVERY area of our culture or economy that they have been pushing most fervently, they push for a leveling of the US with other nations, and attempt to remove national differences and boundaries. These fit with Communism, except that they have NO DESIRE to eliminate "classes" of people, or that the state OWN business- they only wish to CONTROL business as in Fascism (they have stated that they don't want to run the banks or auto companies) and they don't mind that their favored elites are billionaires, just as in fascism. Like fascism, they desire to control individual thought and behavior and forcibly suppress dissent.

Either we stipulate that the “whole world” is the “nation” for Dear Leader et al, to accurately describe their government philosophy, and state they are "ONE-WORLD FASCISTS", or we need a new word to describe their desired governmental system.

A word that would accurately synthesize their thinking is:

CommuFascist

The important point, though, is that whether this philosophy is labeled CommuFascist, or “Progressive” or One-World Fascists, analysis reveals that Dear Leader, Pelosi, and these super-liberals are espousing a MORE EXTREME FORM of Fascism and VERY extreme form of liberalism. Dear Leader is a “one-world” Mussolini.

Far from being pejorative, analysis reveals I was being generous when I was describing them as Fascist, not pejorative. I might be calling them something more extreme instead, “Progressive” or equivalently, CommuFascist.

Mort - you need to absorb this argument and examine yourself. Perhaps it is not your intention to be part of this.

12 posted on 05/11/2010 9:13:12 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: downtownconservative
An April 2009 Rasmussen Reports poll found that 53% of American adults thought capitalism was better than socialism, but that "Adults under 30 are essentially evenly divided: 37% prefer capitalism, 33% socialism, and 30% are undecided" Given that Obama is by far the farthest to the left among all occupants in the history of our White House and he excites those who support socialism because he shares their beliefs (or goes even further), I'm left wondering whether Kondracke dismisses the "socialist?" question without debate out of his own ignorance or to intentionally obscure the truth.

Of course Obama "I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody" is a socialist.

Of course Obama raise capital gains tax rates even if it reduces revenue "for purposes of fairness" is a socialist.

Of course Obama who let Pelosi lead on socialized medicine with her democratic philosophy that "you have to pass it to find out what's in it" is a socialist.

Of course Obama [warning: Helen Thomas quote] "Not Even Nixon Tried to Control the Media Like Obama" is a socialist.

The socialists finally got what they wanted - one of their own has taken charge of a regime running the United States government. Are they ashamed of their beliefs, or are they continuing to lie to the masses to slow down the patriotic reaction of those opposed to evil?

17 posted on 05/11/2010 9:41:49 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: downtownconservative
In his speculations about the ideology of Obama, Kondracke makes comments similar to those Oreilly makes frequently. One must wonder if these two (and others) simply are naive, or are they blatantly attempting to preserve their future right to either interview or be looked upon favorably by the President.

When a "leader" surrounds himself with surrogates who are committed ideologues, and when important policy decisions reflect a similar ideology--when a State and Federal Senate voting record is totally committed to a Far Left ideology, what more is needed to convince Kondracke and Oreilly of the ultimate ideological commitment of this President?

When one considers the great intellect, wisdom, understanding and foresight of America's Founders--all directed toward preserving the liberty of rising generations, one must conclude that their worst fears are being realized as this foolish President "transforms" America into a debtor nation, making slaves of all citizens and snuffing out the light of liberty for his own posterity--indeed, for all the world.

Justice Joseph Story said of the Constitution of the United States: "The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its components are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order, and its defenses are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens."

If America's citizens, who are designated by the Constitution to be the constitutional KEEPERS of the Constitution, do not act soon to reverse the reckless plunge this Administration is taking toward undoing the Founders' protections for liberty, then future generations may never know or experience their heritage of liberty.

18 posted on 05/11/2010 10:28:22 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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