CA-SEN: Fiorina and the GOP Launch Last-Minute Back-Door Attack on Chuck DeVore

UNCOVERAGE.net ^ | May 9, 2010 | Admin

[VictoryGal]

>Sarah should remember these words of hers because when she got started she was a Chuck DeVore who was pro-life, but couldn’t be endorsed by the political insiders that ran the pro-life organization because she wasn’t considered political enough.

>Now Sarah has gone with the “GOP machine” in endorsing Fiorina.

So much this. Sad to see. Even sadder to see those “conservatives” who will roll over for Sarah on this. If you love conservatism, you will hold Sarah’s feet to the fire when she endorses a RINO. DeVore got the shaft. We could win this if we had Sarah on board, but she chose to buddy up to the traitors in the RNC. Shame.

[Natural Born 54]

I think you have underestimated the immediate danger of the Obama regime.

[VictoryGal]

> A message from Melanie Morgan concerning this fiasco:
>>I’ve been involved in California politics for the better part of two decades and I am shocked, disgusted and sickened by what has happened to Chuck DeVore at the hand of Carly Fiorina and her establishment Republican political operatives.

Melanie is the real deal. Once again she is on top of this issue as a true blue California Conservative. Sarah made a huge and damaging mistake — and it’s going to smack California, hard. Thanks for nothing, Sarah. Thanks for stabbing deVore in the back.

[edh]

“Gotta wonder if the Founders ever considered the possibility of career politicians. Me, I dunno.”

Seeing that Senators were originally appointed by Governors and that House members (no pun intended) were only supposed to represent 30,000 people, I think they may have considered this :-).

I personally think that if the Founders saw the House stuck at 435 people representing 300,000,000+ people, they’d puke. The House was intended to be a madhouse!!! Instead it has mutated into a form of Senate.

Finally, it doesn’t take much money to corrupt a body the size of a high school graduating class or Rosie O’Donnel.

I know growing the size of Congress goes against the grain of small government Conservatism, but growing the House in a way that follows the US Constitution results in more accurate sampling of the public. It empowers the people of this nation with much more accurate representation at the Federal level.

Just my thoughts.

[VictoryGal]

> Some on FR spit in the face of Sarah Palin suppoters and call it dew. We call it spit.

I don’t spit. I call it like I see it. The truth is that Sarah picked a RINO over a conservative. If the truth hurts, don’t shoot the messenger.

[Hostage]

I agree. I think the GOP RINO leadership (McCain, Graham et al.) would like to see the TP diluted and discredited as the TP is a threat to their power network.

And it is near certain that Devore and his TP support do not allow for GOP network control, hence GOP needed to find a candidate with cash like Fiorina and package her as some sort of conservative (Ha Ha Ha very funny) to drive a wedge between GOP conservatives and TP conservatives.

It made be a good thing to return Boxer to the Senate (preparing for a barrage of arrows launched at me) because California is bankrupt and will not receive a bailout when conservatives are voted into Congress this election. Hence, all the blame will be on dems.

Campbell will not be able to stop the California catastrophe and he could be set up to take blame. As far as Campbell is concerned, it seems he will vote pretty much a dem line anyways, so the difference between he and Boxer appears only Party identity, hence don’t let the GOP brand be further sullied by having RINO democrat Campbell besmirch the brand.

Fiorina will split votes off of Devore, both will lose; Campbell will be the primary winner and at that point one might as well give it back to Boxer because California will fail and Boxer is a good punching bag for conservatives.

Boxer prevails and goes on to commit Caligulism.

Next up Feinstein and the Sacramento legislature.

[Avoiding_Sulla]

Now, can yuo find a way to make your analysis understood by the just enough FReepers so that DeVore has a chance to squeek by? I pray you can do it.

[Jim W N]

Hostage, I don’t know how you were able to delete my comments, but I think I deserve an explanation for this - off line if you prefer. I too think you have misunderstood what I’m saying.

[SeattleBruce]

"That is a good point - in two-three weeks from now, either DeVore is reasonably competitive, or he is not. If yes, I'll support him too. If not, I hope he drops out, or voters swing behing Fiorina BIG TIME to stop the real problem here.

The 2-3 week period could be detrimental if he can't garner support (which quite honestly he has failed to do in the last 8 mths), but I'd be okay with that risk myself."
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If we don't ride out these races in a reasonable way - the GOP establishment will squash us like a bug. Stutzman came within a 10 points of Coats in IN last week (29 to 39), although polling 3rd there for quite a while and only half of Coats' numbers, and may have won if the decentralized tea partiers had worked together!

We are and need to continue to have both winning and INFLUENCING impact - or we'll be written off by the Republicans, as they have in the past.

THIS is crunch time. There will be other crunch times and hard decisions to make also. Let's be clear headed and not attack each other. Let's work together folks!

[SeattleBruce]

“Next up Feinstein and the Sacramento legislature.”

What are your thoughts there? At some point we need to bring conservatives back to electoral power in CA - how do we do that. It may take a decade, I suppose.

[Hostage]

I think the Obama machine underestimates the resolve and determination of the American People. Conservatism is breaking out in the UK and in Germany after a very long absence. It will do likewise here.

I am for revolution. Like Rush Limbaugh I want to see Obama fail and in fact know he will fail but I want something more, I want Obama to continue to overreach even unto a pretentious Martial Law, and usher in a revolution, either nonviolent or violent. The bigger the crisis the better; the bigger the danger, the larger the backlash.

I thank Obama for his unifying the American people under the Tea Party to rail against he and his flagrant socialism. I want Obama to unify us even more to the point of an overhaul of the American Constitution under a nonviolent or violent revolution, but in the direction that underlies the original ideas of American Independence, and all that entails.

I am itching for a fight, not at all afraid of Obama.

[ansel12]

Yes, when someone starts a thread from am unknown blog, about a conspiracy theory against a candidate it is OK to ask the poster that started the thread, who wrote the article that he posted.

This is your thread, you can tell us who wrote the article, you posted.

[Hostage]

The deletes were not mine. I saw your first deleted post before it was deleted and then saw it was deleted. When you posted later in the thread the same comment, I knew you would be deleted and possibly banned. I was warning you.

Blacks are not the scapegoat here, political correctness is. The dems have the minority vote for a reason, they bought it. The dem leftists have the old media, the universities, the unions, many of the courts and the minority blocs. Those component positions need to be dissipated and transitioned to different states via changes in law and in the Constitution. Focus on this latter and you will be in the strike zone.

[ansel12]

Of the California voters that strongly support the tea party, the highest number of them support Devore.

Post your source for that claim, because the only polling that I have seen says different.

The only poll that I have seen, says that California voters that most strongly identify with the tea party support Fiorina.

[excopconservative]

“My understanding is that Fiorina has considerable Tea Party support. DeVore certainly has that support too,
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A lot of people identify with the Tea Party and say that they are Tea Party supporters when polled but have never been to one rally or meeting. Since the Tea Party movement is a conservative based movement, it would be totally out of character for there to be any energy there to elect a John McCain moderate. There is considerable energy for the conservative, DeVore.

I’m not saying there’s no one who supports her. We are all individuals after all.

[Natural Born 54]

I’d like to see him exposed for the usurper he is and prosecuted along with all the enablers. That process would provide a nice start for the major house cleaning that needs to get done. I’m in favor of what ever gets it done, a voting booth or a bayonet. The sooner the better.

[sarah fan UK]

Conservatism is breaking out in the UK.

I wish it were so but it isn’t. The British public have opted for no overall political control and we have no government as of this moment. We will have a weak coalition at best. Should a coalition be formed between the LD and Tories the price will be tossing out first past the post in favour of proportional representation. If so weak coalition/compromise your ass to stay in power government will become the norm. The future is not rosy here.

Sadly, a majority of voters here desire no return to the policies or approaches of Maragret Thatcher or hard edged conservatism for that matter. Those that try to promote it will be rejected at the polls as they were this go around.

[LibFreeUSA]

What qualifications has Fiorina met to be labeled a “progressive”?

[Hostage]

Exactly. One Senator is not the problem in CA. The problem is too wide and entrenched. Bankruptcy and insolvency will go further in bringing back conservatism than getting Fiorina in. Of course Devore would be better but that’s still not a solution.

CA needs its epic fail to happen to extinguish the Left influence there. Then Devores will proliferate everywhere naturally when it fails.

California (I lived there for 20 years, still have family and property there) and Washington State are similar politically. Both are controlled by large urban population centers, with rural areas largely conservative. Both have heavy union presence intertwined with government and government unions.

California will fail.

When it fails conservatives will have their chance. The rise of population in rural conservative counties can dilute the political effects of large urban regions. I would study how to bring back conservatism via state legislature and county politics rather than national politics.

I would push to develop the TP into a real political party that fields its own candidates. California could lead the nation again if this was done right.

The California TP should make the federal government a pariah for decades. Anything federal should be greeted with skepticism and derision. Rise of state power under a conservative TP banner should be the goal.

[Hostage]

I didn’t say it was in control, I said it was breaking out in the sense that a graph of its resurgence took a sharp jump up. You can’t deny the recent elections.

We have to look at trends. The UK has been in a state of socialism and politically correctness longer than the USA. And now there are significant developments that this state is beginning to dissolve. Same with Germany.