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“the nocebo effect” — real, adverse physiological reactions people sometimes develop when they learn they have been exposed to something — even if there is no evidence it may be harmful.

What about all the contraceptive hormones in the water supply?

1 posted on 05/09/2010 5:50:48 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Yes. These are shocking findings from a Presidential Commission, given that we have a president who would like to regulate everything.


2 posted on 05/09/2010 5:53:12 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: neverdem

The govt report is, as you might imagine, a crock and scientists have said so.


3 posted on 05/09/2010 5:53:19 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: neverdem

“...warning that our lackadaisical approach to regulation..”

Is there one damned thing these ass hats don’t think they should regulate?


4 posted on 05/09/2010 5:54:22 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: neverdem

So if Chemicals are so bad why is our life expectancy increasing every year?


5 posted on 05/09/2010 5:54:51 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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“It’s striking that this report emerges not from the fringe but from the mission control of mainstream scientific and medical thinking, the President’s Cancer Panel.”

The world is turned upside down with this president. The fringe is now presented as the mainstream.


6 posted on 05/09/2010 5:55:21 PM PDT by marktwain
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...more rigorous regulation...

ObamaNation likes "more rigorous regulation".

7 posted on 05/09/2010 5:58:28 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough "history" yet?)
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8 posted on 05/09/2010 5:59:42 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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Man is now living far longer than ever before. Up to an average pushing 80. All these old folks alive today lived thru all those years with little or no regulation, but now we’re told everything is killing us and we’re doomed unless we immediately introduce more regulation.


11 posted on 05/09/2010 6:02:19 PM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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... we reduce cancer risks through regular doctor visits, self-examinations and screenings such as mammograms.

I stopped reading after he confused "reducing risks" of cancer with diagnosis of cancer. We can reduce risk by (for example) quitting smoking, eating a high-fiber diet, or using sunscreen.

13 posted on 05/09/2010 6:03:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Amateurish," agreed Janet Napolitano, the White House amateurishness czar.)
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The panel consists of THREE people!

Link to report:

http://deainfo.nci.nih.gov/advisory/pcp/pcp08-09rpt/PCP_Report_08-09_508.pdf


14 posted on 05/09/2010 6:04:54 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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our lackadaisical approach to regulation may have far-reaching consequences

Everything oput of this administration is all about more "regulation."

The tyranny has slipped its bonds and is on the loose.

15 posted on 05/09/2010 6:07:17 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: neverdem
Everything we eat is chemicals.
Most occur in nature, some don't.
Some man-made chemicals are exact replicas of natural compounds.
Many thousands of natural chemicals are poisons.
Almost anything can be toxic in large enough quantities or certain combinations.
There is absolutely no end to the amount of damage politicians can do with this.
16 posted on 05/09/2010 6:07:52 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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After seeing real science papers about global warming I no longer believe anything the government says. When a government agency says “It’s for your own good” I say let’s start searching for who’s saying it and who profits if this is regulated.

I am not going to be managed. I am not the property of some bunch of rich politicians benefitting by passing laws & regulations which enrich them.

I am not the property of the government. I am not a serf.

Get out of my life. I pay you taxes keep the the foreigners from invading & keep the thieves from raiding my house. Other than that to all of government MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.


18 posted on 05/09/2010 6:10:09 PM PDT by Bhoy
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Carcinogen identification and risk analysis is scientifically and mathematically flawed to the point of uselessness.

Spend a few hours reading about the concepts of threshold, lower bounds, multiplications factors and absolute risk. Until the EPA stops torturing the numbers, the politicians have no business regulating.

On top of that, the greenies would happily let a million real people die from food and water borne disease to prevent one mathematically predicted death. Just think of how many lives have been saved since the ban on DDT.

Remember, these are the same people that found that not smoking in a smoker’s house can be more deadly that actually smoking, I think they may have actually felt shame or at least embarrassment and walked that one back.


21 posted on 05/09/2010 6:21:39 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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More horse-pucky aimed at alarming the public so the Obamatrons can save us yet again.

http://bigjournalism.com/rtrzupek/2010/05/08/government-cancer-scare-report-so-bogus-even-the-new-york-times-noticed/


22 posted on 05/09/2010 6:23:06 PM PDT by Stosh
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They should have checked with Agricultural people. It is a simple fact that the overall yields are less with organic foods. That is why they cost more. You cannot feed our current population purely on organic foods. Modern chemistry, mechanization and genetics have allowed us to increase yields to meet population demands. We would be back producing at 1900 levels without the progress we have made in these areas. Can’t go back.


23 posted on 05/09/2010 6:27:23 PM PDT by marsh2
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This must be the “report” which Dennis Prager referred to last week.....basically saying we should be raising our children in “bubbles”.....even the AMA or some other similar organization called this report over the top!


26 posted on 05/09/2010 7:03:20 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Destroy AMERICA.....Vote DEMOCRAT)
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You are all going to die.

Having said that, let’s not allow these a-holes make our time ALIVE a living death.

Up yours, comrade Soetoro!


27 posted on 05/09/2010 7:27:24 PM PDT by Boucheau
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This is an emotional witch hunt.

My original degree is in nutrition, as in the chemistry of foods and feed. “Organic” does not mean a damn thing in scientific circles. It’s a feel-good marketing ruse. Molecules do not have souls, some more virtuous than others.

American food is many times safer than what our great-grandparents ate before refrigeration became widespread. Food preservation was less than perfect, and eating was full of risk. Fresh foods and meats fit to eat were not easily come by all year. A 100 years ago dairy cows lived in cow hell-towers in cities fixed in stanchions where they lived and made milk until they died, because fresh milk could not be transported far.

Spoilage and breakdown by-products were commonly ingested. Prior to federal regulation, even canned goods could not be trusted, since dyes were added to make food appear “fresh”.

“Chemicals” are not demonic molecules. “Chemicals” include all the molecules known. Not even all pesticides are dangerous to humans—to make that point, one scientist consumed DDT straight, undiluted, but that did not suit the campaign to demonize DDT, which led to its ban and the deaths of tens of millions of black, brown and yellow people in places far away from the people who hysterically wanted DDT banned. They continue to die, for lack of cheap DDT.

Clean water has not always been available. The ability to drink freely whatever comes out of your tap is a great and wonderful thing—no microbial disease threat, no sulfurous odor. In many cases, it’s cleaner than the water people buy in little plastic bottles.

If one is to be hysterical about exposure to “chemicals”, then one should give up the use of makeup and hair dye, the use of shampoo, the use of cleaning solutions, and use only the simplest of soaps, forget the use of air fresheners, and bring nothing into one’s home that might outgas volatiles over time—including foam cushions, anything painted or varnished, and give up any kind of fried food, since that tends to create free radicals.

The sanest route is to exercise some good sense. Pregnant women probably should not handle toxic waste—but they should be just as careful not to develop fevers which might lead to fetal deformities.


29 posted on 05/09/2010 7:44:12 PM PDT by Nepeta
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“Traditionally, we reduce cancer risks through regular doctor visits, self-examinations and screenings such as mammograms”

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What a crock!

All that does is increase your chance of paying a high price for a “medical” proceedure that is guaranteed to shorten your life!
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33 posted on 05/09/2010 7:55:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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