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Holder: Miranda may need changes for terrorists
Associated Press ^ | May 09, 2010 | STEVEN R. HURST

Posted on 05/09/2010 2:20:02 PM PDT by george76

In the wake of the Times Square bombing plot, the Obama administration said on Sunday it wants to work with Congress on possible limitations of the constitutional rights afforded terrorism suspects — even for American citizens.

Attorney General Eric Holder said changes may be needed to allow law enforcement more time to question suspected terrorists before they are told about their Miranda rights to a lawyer and to remain silent under interrogation.

As the nation debates how to proceed against terrorist attacks, particularly as they have become the work of individuals who are difficult to detect in advance, the administration has been heavily criticized for reading Miranda rights to suspects in the Christmas Day attempt to blow up a plane heading for Detroit and the May 1 Times Square plot.

Holder said the White House wanted to work with Congress to examine the 1966 Supreme Court Miranda ruling to ensure that law enforcement agents have "necessary flexibility" to gather information from suspects in terror cases.

The Miranda warning — a bedrock guarantee of a suspect's constitutional rights — has come under more intense study because accused Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad is a U.S. citizen of Pakistani origin. The administration declared on Sunday that he was working under the direction of the Pakistani Taliban.

There also was a foreign link in the case with Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, who is accused in the shooting deaths of 13 people last year at Fort Hood, Texas. Authorities claim he has ties to radical Muslim cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen born in New Mexico to Yemeni parents.

Al-Awlaki, who lives in Yemen, also has been alleged to have ties to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian charged with trying to explode a bomb concealed in his underwear as his plane approached Detroit.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Michigan; US: New York; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: attorneygeneral; bhodoj; bhogwot; elenakagan; ericholder; holder; miranda; mirandarights; mirandavsarizona; mirandawarning; terrorism; terrorists; terrortrials
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1 posted on 05/09/2010 2:20:02 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

How about one for the enemies within???


2 posted on 05/09/2010 2:21:02 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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Hey, Holder - how about you not be in such a hurry to read foreign terrorism suspects their rights? It’s like Holder is saying ‘Stop me before I Mirandize again...’


4 posted on 05/09/2010 2:27:19 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: george76

Foreign terrorists waging war against America have no rights. Constitutional or otherwise.


5 posted on 05/09/2010 2:27:32 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Comrade O has to go.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Stedman's record has been dismal at best. The devil will be in the details, WATCH YOUR FREEDOMS
6 posted on 05/09/2010 2:29:19 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: george76
They are right... there should be some Miranda changes for terrorists.

To start with, prior to reading Miranda, the terrorist must be provided a chaise lounge, and seated comfortably. Then, offered a drink of his/her choice (devout muslims may prefer a soft drink to alchoholic.... especially if its a hot day). Pillows should be made available. Then and only then, the Miranda can be read to the terrorist...

7 posted on 05/09/2010 2:30:16 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the world safe for Marxism)
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To: george76

Well, Holder, you stupid jerk. We don’t need any new congressional “understanding.” We need to obey the laws we already have. An Attorney General ought to understand that.

Unfortunately, you are a corrupt, racist, communist AG, so it’s probably hard for you to wrap your head around such concepts as law and order and constitutional government.

No Miranda rights for foreign combatants and terrorists, you jerk.


8 posted on 05/09/2010 2:30:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: george76
Holder is going to get Americans killed.
I curse the Republicans who helped confirm this SOB
9 posted on 05/09/2010 2:34:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: george76
Why does Holder need "to work with Congress" on this?

Congress told you not to Mirandize terrorists in the first place, Idiot Holder!!

10 posted on 05/09/2010 2:40:33 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: george76

Too much studying going on, we need more - let’s get it done before people get killed.


11 posted on 05/09/2010 2:46:09 PM PDT by unique
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To: george76

Seems to me we need a legal definition of what constitutes terrorism and terrorists.

Hang terrorists and leave us American Citizens and our God given rights alone.

Let it go.


12 posted on 05/09/2010 3:10:49 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: george76
lol

this idiot is finally agreeing with everything Bush said was necessary.

13 posted on 05/09/2010 3:31:26 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: george76
If you don't Mirandize the terrorist, you can't use anything he says against him in court. However, that may not be the most important issue.

If you have physical evidence, or witnesses, as there was in the case of the underwear bomber, you don't need a confession or the terrorist's information in court. Hence not Mirandizing him doesn't affect the ability to prosecute him. The information obtained from him before letting him lawyer up is intended to allow you to go after other terrorists. It isn't intended to be used for prosecuting him.

In the case of the Times Square bomber, I believe there was sufficient physical evidence to tie him to the crime. No matter what he said in advance of being Mirandized, none of it matters for his prosecution.

The proper consideration is, do we have enough evidence to convict without questioning the suspect? If so, get it locked down so there's no question that it came from a tainted source (non-Mirandized), the question the hell out of him about other terrorists. When he's been pumped dry, Mirandize him, get him a lawyer, and take him to court (or better yet, a military tribunal).

14 posted on 05/09/2010 4:03:09 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( My new book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, now available from Amazon.)
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Yes, Eric, I totally agree. Apprehenders of terrorists should say, "You are arrested for suspected terrorism. This charge prohibits you from having Miranda Rights. You will be taken immediately to a military installation for questioning."

"Quiet!! You have no rights here except those granted by the US after you have been questioned."

vaudine

15 posted on 05/09/2010 5:32:03 PM PDT by vaudine (,,)
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. . . possible limitations of the constitutional rights afforded terrorism suspects — [even for American citizens].

Holder must end his sentence after the word “suspects”.
Anything more and all of our Constitutional rights (of which foreign terrorists have none) are in jeopardy.


16 posted on 05/09/2010 5:34:48 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: george76

Hussein and Holder are POSING for the 2010 elections.

No one in their right mind believes these two jerkwads give a s&*^ about getting rid of terrorists.

Gimme a break, clowns. You’re about as believable as Bill Clinton.


17 posted on 05/09/2010 8:05:35 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: ExTexasRedhead
How about one for the enemies within???

They are the ones in charge.

18 posted on 05/09/2010 8:08:31 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (we now live in a post-Obamapacolyptic world)
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To: george76

“You have the right to an Imam. If you do not have an Imam, one will be appointed for you, whether you want one or not.”


19 posted on 05/09/2010 8:11:44 PM PDT by Hunton Peck ("Cemetaries are full of indispensable men."--C. DeGaulle "But not nearly enough of them."--H. Peck)
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To: george76

Given that Tea Party Members are lumped in with “terrorists” according to this bunch, I would be very suspicious of such a suggestion.


20 posted on 05/09/2010 8:40:53 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Calling an Illegal Alien an "Immigrant" is like calling a bank robber a "customer")
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